Show me where I said that. I said Gladiator showings against other Heralds puts him above Thor. The planetary ft is all nice and dandy but Gladiator fist towards the face is far more lethal.
Why do you do this to yourself? Both you and I know you've said about as much in the past, all it'll take is some digging. I'm pretty sure that line of thinking is what spawned the battle zone thread.
You think Gladiator has combat showings against Heralds or whatever that put him above Thor physically? I refuse to believe you're that ignorant.
Blood and Thunder alone completely destroys your chances of ever winning such a debate.
^Superman took a nebula sized (700 light years across) sun eater blast while extremely weakened by red sun energy of several suns it had absorbed. PC validus was almost killed by a chunk of sun eater exploding.
The same despero who was going h2h with him in "crisis of consience" after Kal fought entire justice league and couldn't get upper hand on him. Titus fought an extremely weaker superman who couldn't go to moon under his own power and yet only one kick from superman stunned him. Anyway I am not talking about a fight here, I am talking about strength feats.
Carver, you've said as much, you know this, why deny it? What does that mean?
- Thor didn't lose to Hyperion in their first encounter, and Thor was specifically holding back as noted in their second encounter where Thor drops him.
- The Odinson has completely outclassed Wonder Man in the past as well.
- Not really.
- If Thor fought a Masterson who was in a similar state of mind as he was against Gladiator, then he'd fair at least as well. As DeFalco made clear in the very first issue of his run, his biggest weakness was mental. Lol, are you implying that Gladiator didn't have trouble against Masterson?
Gladiator cannot win against Thor in combat showings. I've seen every one of his notable battles, the evidence simply doesn't hold up, not when Thor's wrecked Elites and fought Trans to Skyfather level entities multiple times.
Don't waste your time, I'd rape you in such a debate. Still, I don't want to deprive you of your fun, if you're interested, I'll get into it, just don't chicken out half way.
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Thor first fight against Hyperion, he didn't do so good.
Wonderman koed Thor during their first encounter.
If Thor would have fought Masterson, they probably would have stalemated. Masterson couldn't handle a lot of punches from Gladiator. The first punch fatigued him.
Rage...get on my level.
Average showings, Thor isn't beating, let alone tanking attacks from skyfathers/Celestials. He can hardly hang with Savage Hulk.
"Though not even such a blow can harm the mighty immortal..."
That's definitely a knock out.
It depends entirely on Masterson's mental state, as DeFalco emphasized, his mind was his biggest weakness. A confident/enraged Masterson can and has stalemated Thor.
Doesn't take away much from the Odinson though, in such a state, Gladiator would get his shit pushed in, whatever speed advantage he has won't be enough to overcome the massive power disparity and at the end when he fought Thor, he had come into his own (He knew how to control Mjolnir, didn't forget that he could control the weather, had experienced a fair number of battles and so on).
I don't think you know what that word means.
So I guess you don't want to compare their respective combat showings then?
Kind of disappointed but not in anyway surprised. Anyone with even a passing knowledge of the character's knows that it's no contest.
Also, Thor's more powerful than Gladiator on average, more so if we use their best showings. Which coincidentally you don't ever have trouble using for Gladiator but for some reason, do when it's Thor.
He didn't do that bad but I can tell that Hype probably would have took him in a physical match up. No need to show the scan, I already knew Thor stated he held back. Hyperion has always been a challenge for Thor.
Wonderman worked Thor. He didn't stand a chance against Gladiator though.
Masterson didn't hold back against Glads and still got curbed. He had to sneak attack Gladiator to gain a edge. He lost his confidence because he was looking down at how Gladiator was working everyone. Yes...I do know what the word means...Gladiator punch fatigue/took the energy from Masterson Thor with a single punch and let's not forget...Masterson withstood attacks from Thor without too much trouble.
I admit...Thor is more powerful than Glads...hell, Thor is more powerful than any Herald but in a contest of physical (nothing else included)...Gladiator would kill him.
I know that Superman beat Despero (with a dose of heat vision) and that was a weaker Despero and even if you included that fight, minus heat vision, Despero was physically handling Superman during that encounter.
Not really, Thor hit him with the equivalent of love taps.
As opposed to Gladiator?
Wonder Man sucker punched Thor and all it did was take him off balance. Stop trolling.
He most definitely did. Not his fault Gladiator is moronic. I know, further emphasizing the point of how inexperienced Masterson is and how confidence is his biggest problem.
Fatigue in this context would imply that Masterson was weary or exhausted, he wasn't. At best he was just stunned for the moment.
Give Gladiator his full power set, and make Thor a flightless brick, Kallark would win. That's about as far as it goes for him.
Anything more, and I disagree. We should do what Bada said, save us some time from all these pointless debates.
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