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It is about the captain and his crew it just focuses more on the doctor relationship and it had all sorts of crew members and there storys introduced wink . The scene where they where beating that guy for dissing that other guy was way cool smile


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i don't think it matters that much...the accuracy of the cannonballs and whatnot...


It doesn't really, most movies have something dramatized by Hollywood. But I just bring it up sense lots of people like the movie 'because' of its realism and the cannon balls are something that detracts from that (although it goes unnoticed by most).


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Those cannons were highly inaccurate. They seriously couldn't shoot accurately for more than a couple hundred feet. I know it wasn't a full mile, but it was definitely out of the accuracy range for what those things did back in those days. Hell, even the old shitty pirate movies were better about having cannon balls miss and hit the water.


No, I am sorry, you are wrong. I will repeat what I said- an 18 pounder at full elevation had an effective range of a mile. Do you understand what an effective range is? It's not the maximum range, it's the range at which you can be expected to do anything. At half a mile they could reasonably penetrate 30cm of wood, and did so quite often.

You are getting confused because the most effective way to actually seriously damage a ship was to close to point blank range and broadside. This is because, in the days before truly explosive shells, it was almost impossible to actually sink ships in those days unless you set them on fire- you could pound the shite out of them for hours and they wouldn't sink, though the rather less durable crew might not be looking too good.

Surprise was not critically damaged by that opening gunfire. But people died, and that is entirely accurate. There is no reason to think that a decent and planned surprise attack at that range would not have scored hits. Like I say, only the smallest amount of dramatic licence was involved- you might call it a little lucky, but the scene is far from unbelievable.


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One of the only movies worth watching this year. This is one of those movies where everything seems to click nsync.


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yes


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No, I am sorry, you are wrong. I will repeat what I said- an 18 pounder at full elevation had an effective range of a mile. Do you understand what an effective range is? It's not the maximum range, it's the range at which you can be expected to do anything. At half a mile they could reasonably penetrate 30cm of wood, and did so quite often.

You are getting confused because the most effective way to actually seriously damage a ship was to close to point blank range and broadside. This is because, in the days before truly explosive shells, it was almost impossible to actually sink ships in those days unless you set them on fire- you could pound the shite out of them for hours and they wouldn't sink, though the rather less durable crew might not be looking too good.

Surprise was not critically damaged by that opening gunfire. But people died, and that is entirely accurate. There is no reason to think that a decent and planned surprise attack at that range would not have scored hits. Like I say, only the smallest amount of dramatic licence was involved- you might call it a little lucky, but the scene is far from unbelievable.


Well, I guess if I'm wrong, it was still boring as hell.


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laughing out loud

And nothing can change you mind wink so lets move on smile


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yeah i agree!! smile thanx stormy day!


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I dont like this movie.


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i'm sorry...i thot it was good...not for everybody tho


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Where done talking about people who dont like the movie Orliobsesser lets talk about the movie.


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yeah lets...only i don't remember very much...i thot it was kinda sad tho


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I didnt think it was sad.It was sad when the doctor had to leave all his specimens behind sad


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i thot it was really...creepy when the doctor was doing surgery on himself...uugh *shudder*


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Yup but they hardly showed anything at all sad .....this movie would have been cooler if it was rated R evil face


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mmm...wouldn't they all...exceot when they show sex...i hate that!!!


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lol but since its on a ship it proably be sex between to guys messed


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um yeah im expecially glad they didnt show that...


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yeah messed


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yeah that would have haunted me for a while...


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