I really don't see the Prince winning during this match. I have played POP sands of time and Warrior Within, and played DMC 1 and 3. Yes I understand the Prince has time altering powers but they aren't too powerful. They only last for a very limited time and according to the first post he can only do this 5 times. I also doubt he'll use all 5 of his sand tanks on time freezes too. The way I see this is The Prince will freeze time as the match starts and manages to get 3 or maybe 5 slashes with his sword (Which is nothing more then a very sharp piece steel, as opposed to Dante's arsenal of magical weapons). The Prince's blade does very little damage to Dante, seeing as that Dante can regenerate faster then like 10 Wolverines. Dante slashes at the Prince cutting him in two, the Prince rewinds time, then uses another sand tank using the power of haste. He slashes Dante up, Dante shakes it off and, (actually doesn't the power of haste use more then one sand tank?) puts a bullet in the prince's head. Oh about erasing Dante from time with the dagger, well you can only use that on the sand demons/people. You fight a human man in the end of POP sands of time and that obviously doesn't work, try it yourself, I remember I did. Another thing, Dante gets shot in the head. Shot in the head and he just wipes off the blood and walks off like nothing happened. So the dagger alone won't kill him if it gets logded in his head. All it would do is probably disable the Prince's time abilities, since Dante would probably knock the Prince across the room while the Prince is still holding onto it. Oh and the Sparda family cannot be dismembered. This is proved so many times in all of the DMC games. Dante gets a sword through his arm after the first fight with Vergil (thats why he tears off his right sleeve). Vergil gets cut in half but he doesn't split. Dante gets hand cut through as reaches for Vergil as he falls down the waterfall at the end. Dante cannot be dismembered. Thats pretty much all the Prince had going for him, freeze time cut Dante's head off, but thats not going to work.
Oh another thing Dante can shake off time attacks. He proved he can when fought that horse thing. It wasn't much but he proved he can shake off a time attack, not that the Prince's time alters last very long anyway.
dude a dagger is a dagger no matter how small, also its no an ordinary piece of steel as you put it, its a powerful attack, also the only reason you cannot use it against the human is because his a boss, if you could go around doing it to bosses then it wouldnt be too hard, the game itself doesnt say it is only affective against sand people, also his time powers last long enough to get the dagger into dante's head, the princes time powers are stronger than the horsemen basically because he has two powerful time weapons in his desposal wheras the horseman only uses time powers, he isnt that tough, also dont give me rubbish about the dagger and bullets, a dagger getting pushes into your head is diffrent than a bullet, as fast as a bullet is, its still a tiny piece of metal and isnt that strong itself, wheras a dagger is very diffrent especially if its constantly being pushed, so Dante loses, now let the thread die
And there he goes blaming it on game mechanics. The dagger hasnt proved at ANY point to be effective to anything other than sand creatures, so you cant really prove anything.
I say tie. But all Dante really needs to do is to go into quicksilver mode and just shoot the prince in his head or get close in a split second and slice his head of.
am I the only one who thinks he's not?
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complete balls, Dante isnt that fast really, ive played DMC 1 and 2, unless he suddenly gets a major speed upgrade (which i doubt it) in DMC 3 he wont get to the prince in a split second and kill him, all the prince really has to do is freeze time and stab dante in the head deep (dont give me that bullshit about its not strong enough, its only his head FFS not an armoured helmet, demon or half demon, a knife would go into it given the right push) then with that knife in his head dante dies and loses, so prince still wins, theres no evidence you can give to say the knife is ONLY effective against sand people since it kills humans as well, also it kills the Vizier who is an almost god but yet dies from the knife
Last time I checked the prince didnt have any time stopping powers and I on the other hand have played through both the DMC series and the Persia series You're not qualified to say sh!t about Dante's actual powers.
Sorry but you're not proving how or why a dagger to head would kill him. Also, not only does Quicksilver stop time but it makes him faster too.
I tried something today, I made the prince fall from a building, he fell to the ground, took his last breaths, died and wasnt able to wind time backwards after that. It's not scripted but it still counts, Conclusion : he cant use his time powers after death.
My point with that was that the Prince, even when pierced with large spikes through his head, his hearth, his legs, his arms, everything, can still turn back time. So either he can't when he is dead, but then it takes a hell of a lot to take him down, not just a shot to the head then apparently.....
And actually, the Dahaka does the same thing to the Prince as the Prince does with the dagger to the sand creatures. It turns him into sands and erases him from the timeline. And since the Prince is not made of sand, but the Dahaka can still do it, means that the Prince pretty much can do it as well....
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quicksilver does not truly stop time hence its name, your only moving at such speeds that them slow enemies seem like their not moving, it does not stop time
send me a link to anything that says Quicksilver actually stops time itself and ill belive you, the princes powers allow him to stop time and go faster himself, also what rubbish is this all about a dagger not being able to kill something, if you stab a guy in the head hes dead, simple as, even if its a demon, unless its a god or something near a god it would die, and ime sorry but Dante can be killed by many, many things, even those dum puppets in the first game can beat his ass if you let them so dont say Dante's head is indestructible thats just fanboy talk
to be fair i think its just down to who can time freeze first, Dante isnt indestructable, nor is the prince but with powers over time most things are possible
lets just say for now that Virgil comes for some reason to help Dante and they kill the prince whos time powers for some reason fail him, then Kain the vampire lord teleports in and kills them both with ease, there we go, debate finished.
A bullet is not any stronger then a dagger? WTF? A bullet is a small piece of metal but it has a very very high velocity, much higher then a human a normal human at that could ever create with his just his own abilites. And if Dante's whole body is half human why wouldn't his be half demon too? Why do you have to keep bringing up fanboyism? Dante is pretty much godly, but thats the way Capcom made him. Another thing, Dante is very fast in DMC3. He has a style named Trickster, and that alows him to move so fast his body looks like a blur. And that brings up something no one has brought up yet, Dante can teleport! Its his last technique he gets in the Trickster style. I think its called Air Trick or something like that. So Dante is way way faster then the Prince can ever dream of. Why do still insist the dagger in the skull is an instant death? Yes it would be if Dante was human, but he is obviously not. The guy survived being shot in the head, meaning the bullet went into his skull and out the back of his skull (he was shot in the head from about maybe 4 or 5 feet). This was a mismatch to begin with, Dante is pretty much superior to the Prince in everyway. I'am a fan of the Prince but this match just isn't very fair.
being half demon doesnt make him godlike, as shown in the game he takes quite some hurt if you let him get hit by mere puppets or some of the lesser creatures that dont even have weapons so saying he is super regentive with almost instant heal and rubbish that he is so fast that its a blur, sure his blur state is real but how long does it last, i doubt capcom would make their game so easy that you can blur through it, the Dagger is very powerful, its like saying just because Dante's sword sparda is a sword that it cant penetrate a concrete wall because swords dont often do it, but honestly, i doubt you would say that, wheras Princes sword is not normal, he kill many humans with it and his time powers can not only kill Dante but also freeze time, Dante cannot prove he can stop the prince from doing this, ime sorry but ime not convinced
bullets are as you said only a small piece of metal, if Dante has fast regeneration then to heal a tiny hole made by the bullet cannot be that hard, wheras i doubt his regeneration will be in effect with not only time frozen but the prince is sticking the dagger deep into his brain, dude i admit dante is strong, i like him, otherwise i wouldnt of played DMC 1 and 2 and about to get 3 but hell when your frozen in time with a dagger sliced through your brain and skull you do not survive, half demon or no half demon
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but i meant his true 100% enemies, i dont think Vergil is that bad really, just a bit power hungry
Jul 17th, 2006 08:05 AM
am I the only one who thinks he's not?
You're not qualified to say sh!t about Dante's actual powers.
