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Just how powerful was Solaris?
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Galan007
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Some people seem to be confused as to how Superman 1M, and the rest of the Dynasty were being powered, I thought it was obvious.

They were powered by the Super-Sun of their time. Thats why when S1M went back to the past, even though he was still under a yellow Sun, he was still losing his powers.

Superman Prime made it so the Dynasty would have these massive powers, but only under the Super-Sun which Prime empowered.


So IMO Supes Prime wasn't just chillin in the Sun, and every time a new Superman popped up he said "ok time to power that guy up!". laughing out loud

Once the new Superman was born, the Super-Sun gave them their powers, just as the regular Sun gave to our Superman, but to a much greater degree.


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I wasn't very impressed by Solaris, honestly. I don't quite put him at Galactus level because I think Galactus would defeat him pretty soundly (Solaris was simply a living sun. Galactus>>>Sun, and Galactus is a better energy manipulator).

The reason he was able to run through so many Supermen is because Solaris is a living sun and could manipulate his energies to create radiation wavelengths that were fatal to them (iirc). It stands to reason that a sentient sun would be able to do that given the fact that all Supermen, regardless of what time period, are solar powered.

It's like if the Oan Power Battery became sentient and turned on the Green Lanterns Corps.

I'd say Solaris is about Tyrant level.


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Originally posted by illadelph12
The reason he was able to run through so many Supermen is because Solaris is a living sun and could manipulate his energies to create radiation wavelengths that were fatal to them (iirc). It stands to reason that a sentient sun would be able to do that given the fact that all Supermen, regardless of what time period, are solar powered.
I don't remember seeing a panel which depicted Solaris using manipulated radiation wavelengths which weakened or killed the Supermen. confused


Solaris was simply more powerful then they were.


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Keep in mind that Solaris did try and wipe out the earth several times and was driven back, similar to Galactus. In those ways they are similar as well. Go through the one million respect thread, it shows him driven back several times by different versions of Superman. He even tried to sit at the edge of the solar system and bombard Earth with harmful radiation, and still failed.

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Originally posted by Kutulu
Keep in mind that Solaris did try and wipe out the earth several times and was driven back, similar to Galactus. In those ways they are similar as well. Go through the one million respect thread, it shows him driven back several times by different versions of Superman. He even tried to sit at the edge of the solar system and bombard Earth with harmful radiation, and still failed.
Right, Solaris was driven back numerous times by members of the House of EL, but we know that not even the JLA 1M was capable of defeating Solaris, because.......well....... They said so.


I'm still leaning towards Solaris being around the hungry/average powered Galactus.


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Re: Just how powerful was Solaris?

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Originally posted by Galan007
What character's power (Marvel or DC) do you think would be most comparable to Solaris from JLA One Million?

I've heard a few opinions, but I want to see what the general consensus is on this subject.



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Originally posted by Galan007
I'm still leaning towards Solaris being around the hungry/average powered Galactus.


Agreed.

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Originally posted by Galan007
What?

Galactus is always beaten because he's easily outsmarted and leaves weapons of ultimate power sitting on the windowsill of his space ship.


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Re: Just how powerful was Solaris?

Should you really be using past tense for a character that wont exist for hundreds of years?

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here is doom with full powered galactus powers

http://img85.imageshack.us/my.php?i...galactusnc9.jpg

http://img85.imageshack.us/my.php?i...alactus1hr7.jpg

http://img137.imageshack.us/my.php?...warenessct0.jpg

SUperman prime and all the superman you can think of would be blinked away.

full powered galactus read what the scans have to say about how powerfull he is

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Originally posted by lionking
full powered galactus


NO. SUCH. THING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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anything regarding galactus and his 'hypothetical' "full-power" is nonsense, heresay and unfounded speculation.

simple as that.


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well read the comic scans and see for your self

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can't see the scan because of the filter at work. i assume it's the one where doom is looking at the foundations of reality or something. the ones from secret wars.

if its the first scan, he has BEYONDER'S POWERS, not galactus's. if it's the one where his senses are enhanced . . . whoopty-doo . . . the heroes defied galactus in secret wars. he absorbed his ship and would have been able to wipe them out.

solaris could have wtfpwn'd that group of heroes effortlessly. superman 1M could prolly take out that entire group of heroes.


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he takes about how he has come omnipotence

like i said blink

pufff

superman prime and the rest are history. infact with that much power he would beable to remove them from history
lolololol

http://img85.imageshack.us/my.php?i...galactusnc9.jpg

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in order to stop himself from absorbing the UNIVERSE and EVERYTHING BEYOND

Galactus ERASES that UNIVERSE from existence

http://img375.imageshack.us/my.php?image=13vp5.jpg

"And without a sound, the UNIVERSE behind them softly and suddenly VANISHES AWAY"


and superman primes got a chance full powered galactus would give anyone fits

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Originally posted by leonidas
can't see the scan because of the filter at work. i assume it's the one where doom is looking at the foundations of reality or something. the ones from secret wars.

if its the first scan, he has BEYONDER'S POWERS, not galactus's. if it's the one where his senses are enhanced . . . whoopty-doo . . . the heroes defied galactus in secret wars. he absorbed his ship and would have been able to wipe them out.

solaris could have wtfpwn'd that group of heroes effortlessly. superman 1M could prolly take out that entire group of heroes.

I can see the scans... It's him with the Beyonders power and also the enhaqnced senses scans. Both of them.


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Originally posted by lionking
here is doom with full powered galactus powers

http://img85.imageshack.us/my.php?i...galactusnc9.jpg

http://img85.imageshack.us/my.php?i...alactus1hr7.jpg

http://img137.imageshack.us/my.php?...warenessct0.jpg

SUperman prime and all the superman you can think of would be blinked away.

full powered galactus read what the scans have to say about how powerfull he is


There's only one scan here with Beyonder's power,

the "Eternity Foundation" scan ... (even I mixed this up once)

we're human fellas smile


The rest are Doom powered by Galactus and his World Ship.


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The rest are Doom powered by Galactus and his World Ship.

I'm pretty sure that he only had the worldships power... But I could be mistaken.


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Here are the proper scans:



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"Perhaps the greatest Energy Source in the Universe"


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This is Dr. Doom....after Absorbing Galactus's power...and Galactus's SHIP.
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"What could Beyonder give me that is not already within my power"?

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Yeah... It looks like he only got the ships power...


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