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Dum Dum Dugan
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Originally posted by Tha C-Master
Hulk isn't faster than Thor.

But it doesn't matter if I'm using it against people who want to play the featwar game.

Not the alternate reality Iron Man eitehr.

So prove where Logan has blitzed someone faster than Thor or Firelord, or else the featwar has ended.

I'm making that thread.


I ment herc.



fire lord fight is unusable evidence.

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Doesn't matter in this argument.

Nevertheless Herc is still not faster than Thor, sorry. That means that Spiderman wins the featwar if that's the fastest you have.


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first of all, batman is weak and might only stand a chance against daredevil. second, daredevil is weak and neither of them should even be considered a challenge to spiderman. captain american is the only one who has the type of strength that spiderman has. him and wolverine would be the only competition. spiderman is super strong. and fast. and agile.

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Originally posted by wade217 first of all, batman is weak and might only stand a chance against daredevil. second, daredevil is weak and neither of them should even be considered a challenge to spiderman. captain american is the only one who has the type of strength that spiderman has. him and wolverine would be the only competition. spiderman is super strong. and fast. and agile.


What the f**k?


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Wow, that's a ton of back and forth. Mainly between C-Master and Capt.


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Doesn't matter in this argument.

Nevertheless Herc is still not faster than Thor, sorry. That means that Spiderman wins the featwar if that's the fastest you have.

really? you mean the guy who has stalmated thor costantly? Ya herc is easily as fast. also for all of thors speed he never uses it

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really? you mean the guy who has stalmated thor costantly? Ya herc is easily as fast. also for all of thors speed he never uses it
Nope, Thor can use his hammer to go much faster friend.


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Nope, Thor can use his hammer to go much faster friend.

yet he did not do it in the fight with spiderman so thats mute.

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How is real world logic used on these forums to determine a comic book(Make believe). If that was true then no way Mutants could get those powers by the x gene in real life and no way a radioactive spider could give humans powers; it should of poisined him. I don't understand why people accept that but then say something about the real world and how it works. sad Did I mention that this is a comic book and it is not the real world? I think people spend to much time reading comics that they confuse it with the real world and try to use real world logic as proof. embarrasment


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yet he did not do it in the fight with spiderman so thats mute.
Because he couldn't.

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How is real world logic used on these forums to determine a comic book(Make believe). If that was true then no way Mutants could get those powers by the x gene in real life and no way a radioactive spider could give humans powers; it should of poisined him. I don't understand why people accept that but then say something about the real world and how it works. sad Did I mention that this is a comic book and it is not the real world? I think people spend to much time reading comics that they confuse it with the real world and try to use real world logic as proof. embarrasment
Logic is only a reason for inference, you need it for any deduction in any debate. stick out tongue

Where's my cake? rolling on floor laughing


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Because he couldn't.

Logic is only a reason for inference, you need it for any deduction in any debate. stick out tongue

Where's my cake? rolling on floor laughing
Not all real world logic works for comics though.

Digi ate it rolling on floor laughing


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Not all real world logic works for comics though.

Digi ate it rolling on floor laughing


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Again he combat speed is slower though. Hulk can ru as fast as he dam well pleases it won’t matter in a fight.

Nope he the size of a normal human.

This does not work in comic logic. Real world logic means nothing in comics.

Actaully false. Logan has superhuman speed. Logan has feats the match spidermans.

Again your trying to sue real world logic and if you do that then spiderman would in fact not only be slower, but also weaker then wolverine.


Capt, seriously. C-Master's points are NOT that hard to understand, you're just trying to fight it.

Strength actually does play a factor into speed. Example: Wolverine weighs more than Superman. And yet, Superman is TREMENDOUSLY stronger than Wolverine, obviously. Muscle mass is NOT the factor for speed, but STRENGTH itself.

HOWEVER, at the same time, strength also is not the only factor. One needs to have a super-pliable and lean body in order to move with the most efficiency, with the least amount of wind resistance. Basically, to cut through the air.

Hulk? He's very large. He can't just cut through the air like the smaller heroes. Wolverien? While not large, he's bulky. He can't move through the air with the same efficiency that Spidey can. That's what his body is made for, to move uber-quickly and fast.

And even though you've said you've matched Spidey's speed feats with Wolverine's, well, that's just your opinion. You've only matched them by saying that you've matched them. I, on the other hand, feel that I have proven Spidey to be faster, and by enough where it would be a big enough factor. And since there's no convincing your stubborn self, this will basically never end.


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Not all real world logic works for comics though.

Digi ate it rolling on floor laughing
It's called internal logic, people here don't know how to seperate the two. We're not in a comic book either.


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Why doesn't Spiderman do this?



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Why doesn't Spiderman do this?



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Because Ultimate Wolverine's skeleton is not bonded on the molecular level.

And/or because ultimate adamantium isn't nearly as indestructable as 616.

Also; nice picture, make it yourself?


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And even though you've said you've matched Spidey's speed feats with Wolverine's, well, that's just your opinion. You've only matched them by saying that you've matched them. I, on the other hand, feel that I have proven Spidey to be faster, and by enough where it would be a big enough factor. And since there's no convincing your stubborn self, this will basically never end.



thumb up exactly.

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I can do this, too.

First of all I would like to say that Spider-Man is faster than Wolverine. It's pretty much fact. To spend time trying to debate this any further than it's already gone would be futile. You're just going to deny it anyway and say that Wolverine can move that fast, when of course, he cannot. Second, yes, Venom gives Spider-Man trouble. Know why? He's a Spider-Man villian. He's faster than Spider-Man and negates his spider-sense. Of course, when fighting Wolverine, he uses about 1/3 of his powers against him. If you know anything about Venom, you would know that he could've wrecked Wolverine if he really wanted to. I also could've sworn that Hulk catches and thrashes Wolverine exponentially more often than against Spider-Man. Get off Wolverine's nuts. Wolverine will tag Spider-Man eventually, yes. But only about 1 hit per ~5 Spider-Man will be dishing out.

But here. You want one? Here's one:
A trained martial artist (with, apparently, some other enhancements) gets owned. Interesting because his nails (claws) and sharp points on his costume have a poison that can knock Spidey out, so SM can’t even get touched (obviously with the sharp points) during this fight or he loses.
http://img519.imageshack.us/img519/385/18522nh.jpg

Another thing. Why do people just give Spider-Man nothing in the fighting skills department? One does not need formal training in order to have fighting skills. And good ones at that. He's developed his own, unique fighting style based around his powers. And yet people say he has no fighting skills. Ignorance.


That scan you showed me SUCK. I have never seen that dude a day in my life and he was complaining about his hands being crushed. Hes a low level villian that wolverine could beat with his eyes close. Show me someone in the ball park of daredevil or elektra range.


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Because Ultimate Wolverine's skeleton is not bonded on the molecular level.

And/or because ultimate adamantium isn't nearly as indestructable as 616.

Also; nice picture, make it yourself?
Yes, I made it myself. eek!


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Yes, I made it myself. eek!


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