those who have souls, destroy them...those who use a large amount of energy...repel it onto them/reflect it...use conflict emblem to make others battle eachother
the Elder God, being planet sized and immaterial could with ease destroy those who have not been proven to hit non material things, the Elder God can also shoot energy from each of its larger eyes, not the small ones as far as i know and is said to be in all time zones at once.
more importantly, is that those who cannot or have not been proven to be able to repel, stop him from using time stop/slow will be in a lot of trouble since they would not be able to do anything, as blizzard say, none of their things are invulerable and the titans are only Demi-God for those who titles mean a lot, so not even as high as Elune who is the only true Goddess.
also Kain can only be killed by the reaver, or more importantly the spirit within the reaver who is his friend, which is why kain cannot die....so they would have to incapacitate him to win..which would be no easy feat
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indeed, kain can be defeated...although he has a lot of ways to escape the fate of defeat thanks to his immaterial abilities, his mist form..his teleportation, if someone no matter how large tries to squash him into nothing he can mist and their strike will hit nothing but air...if someone shoots a world destroying beam at kain, all he has to do is teleport...etc etc he has ways is that point of this
but what ways do you think they could stop him by? i mean how can you stop one who can move throughout dimensions, who can control energy, souls and the conflict, even the state of things. Remember that the Old Gods were mortally wounded, infact one of the titans was also but the old Gods were greatly harmed
also Nerzuel..well thats debatable, he is dead he just still excists as a dead being, as a spirit.
As I said, my point wasn't how powerful they were, but the fact that they lived..
Now that I think about it, one Old God died, but that's not a lot, considering the battle.. They couldn't kill Sargeras when he went renegade either, so they seperated his soul from his body.. The Pantheon masters all magic, and since they are quite the tough ones to kill, and Norgannon for example is a distance fighter, he could very well figure out a way to defeat Kain when ke remains at a distance and observes.. The wisdom of the Pantheon combined most likely would be capable of doing so.. They after all could imprison the Old Gods, which takes more than just muscles..
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its just the parthanon do have limits, their masters of magic but they have not unlimited power and things can only go so far, kain can control boundless energy, in a way most magic is a type of energy, arcane..fire,ice forms of energy in some way or another, his time powers i doubt could be countered since as i say, nothing realistically speaking has been able to stop time, not nerzuel, the parthanon, some can travel time, but to stop it is something not seen.
kains limits would be that he cannot yet actually fly, wether this will make any diffrent i dont know since he can teleport and float which will be able to give him any needed air or height if he wants it, but he cannot fly, the soul reaver blade does incredible damage with strikes so even if he just stops time and slashes the Titans, he may eventually break them, the old gods as you say are incredibly powerful and they show that a titan is not indestructable first hand, yet their powers only go so far.
but its Elune who could just stop everything which would bother Kain, its debatable what grounds and powers she uses for this, since she cannot stop everything, i.e Kil'jaeden and burning legion individuals, and if its mind based Kain has the power of the Emblem of mind (quite a big deal) to power his mind for protection and showns resitence to mind powers in Blood omen 2
i will go undecided i think in this battle, i just think kain has so many powers that he can stack together that eventually he may deal enough damage and blows to weaken their enemies, perhaps Kain since GOW is also in this fight will use the GOW gods to his advantage, ime sure Zues and the GOW titans can deal some damage
The reason I dont think much about GoW, is because they are specialised..The Warcraft ((And LoK)) universe entities seem pretty all-around based, most of the beings.. Most likely, Sargeras and the elemental plane could deal with GoW.. The threat I do think makes the difference, is Kain.. If GoW is based on the greek mythology, then Warcraft will play ball with those guys.. If Warcraft does, I do believe so will LoK..
Elune would be the problem.. But as said, the reason she didn't do anything to Kil'Jaeden and the burning legion is that she stays out of combat.. She is most likely the last one you will see entering combat, but in this battle ((fate of the universe)), I dont think she'll hesitate to interfear..
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I pretty much agree that we can exclude it from the war quickly.. Sargeras could probably fight one of those Gods of with his foot, while focusing on the LoK warriors with the rest of his body..
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yeh the GOW guys are a bit lame, Elder God can solo the GOW universe while the rest of them fight Warcraft and then Elder God when finished can join in...hmm so..how big are the titans do you believe...planet sized? hmm ime not sure, several occasions they walk on the planet, always described sort of like the lord of the rings Valour, scooping the soil and earth with their hands, breathing the skies is the Aesir titans like the high father (not that he would be there, i imagine hes always with the parthanon instead of creating worlds)
Eonar, the wife of Highfather, estimated to have created a planet between her arms.. Since they have a son, I'd estimate highfather to be about the same size..
Sargeras is the brother, so I'd give him their size.. So, I'd say that the Pantheon are all the same size.. Since they are titans, I'd estimate all titans to share their size..
Then we have Kil'Jaeden and Archimonde who can shift sizes.. The limit is unknown, but Archimonde is known to have shifted size in order to grab a titan by the neck, and Kil'Jaeden outpowers Archimonde..
I think all titans and Gods are able to shift sizes.. They have been seen at such random locations trough the history of Warcraft.. Both on planet, and creating them..
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