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The Celestials (Entire Race) Vs. The Endless
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Astner
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Originally posted by Sirius77
Death solos. Heck, any of them solo.

They're the Endless.

One question, who is stronger, the Endless, or
Michael?

Michael and Lucifer is more powerful than most of the Endless, they are both bonded to Destiny though, who by that would be greater than them.

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Originally posted by Erik-Lensherr
Mr Master, as always, trying to fool everybody with that scans


How can I fool people if I'm presenting the scans along with my claim?

You really are a hater dude, on the real.

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Originally posted by Erik-Lensherr
I find it hilarious that anybody could think that there are different levels of omnipotence.


So email Marvel and let em know.

What are you telling us for?

We're not, I know I'm not the one making this stuff up.

That's how MARVEL explains it, so what's your beef dude?

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Originally posted by Erik-Lensherr
Omnipotence is by definition supreme, unlimited power. Unsurpassable. A being can't be omnipotent and be surpassed because that would contradict the whole concept of Omnipotence.


Everyone knows the definiton of Omnipotence.

And?

According to Ernst Zermelo (a legitimate mathmetician)

There ARE levels of Infinity: (Cantor's theorem though)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cantor_theorem

Marvel based their view on Infinity on this.

It isn't some gobbledygook explanation, it actually has mathematical substance.

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Originally posted by Erik-Lensherr
I already explained that scans and I will explain it again.


"you already explained it?"

Since when are you the almighty voice of reason?

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Originally posted by Erik-Lensherr
It's rather simple to understand really, but some just choose to twist the statements illogically (levels of Omnipotence ).


You mean Marvel is twisting statements, or Zemelo?

You can't be talking about me, caue I'm just posting what Marvel has published.

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Originally posted by Erik-Lensherr
I'll use the same analogy. I'll assume everybody is familiar with the four fundamental forces (Electromagnetism, Gravity, Strong Nuclear Force and Weak Nuclear Force). Imagine character A having infinite control over Electromagnetism and character B having infinite control over Gravity. Now imagine character C having infinite control over all four fundamental forces. Thus, character C contains the other 2 infinites in his area of power.

As I said , it's rather simple. Just because you have infinite power over a certain area does not mean you are omnipotent .


That's your opinion, nice.

According to Marvel, concerning Marvel comics,
there ARE different levels of Infinity/Omnipotence.

Don't like it? Complain to Marvel.

Or try and reverse Zemelo's widely accepted theorem.
Yea, email your analogy to the "Mathacademy"
see if they'll debunk what has been established since 1908:

http://www.mathacademy.com/pr/prime...cantor_theorem/

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Originally posted by Erik-Lensherr
Even the scans clearly explain this , with the number analogy .
Dr Strange also clearly says this : "One infinite is included within a larger infinity"


The scans tells us that are different levels of Omnipotence/Infinity. Period.

Same goes with Ernst Zermelo's "Cantor's Theorem"
accepted since 1908 concerning Infinity.


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Erik is right that the different levels of omnipotence arguement is BS.

Mr. M is right in that it's Marvel's BS and we can't really argue with it.

So yes, it's bullshit, and pretty much everyone knows it. But it's one of those things that we try to overlook, because, these are comic books after all. laughing out loud stick out tongue


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