are Heaven/Hell side effects of humans' inability to comprehend nothingness?

Started by dadudemon5 pages

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
Nothingness dose not exist. It cannot exist, because if it did, it would be something. All that shows is that nothingness is unstable.

If you took everything in the universe, including space and time, and placed it into a singularity, what would be outside the singularity?

Obviously, I different set of governing physics. I WIN! 😱

Originally posted by dadudemon
Obviously, I different set of governing physics. I WIN! 😱

Ok, put those "different set of governing physics" into the singularity also. Now what is outside of the singularity?

A singularity.

Originally posted by Deja~vu
A singularity.

Very good. So, would you say there is no outside of the singularity? In other words, nothingness is outside of the singularity.

No?

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
Ok, put those "different set of governing physics" into the singularity also. Now what is outside of the singularity?

FAIL! physics are different inside a singularity.. 😄

Originally posted by dadudemon
FAIL! physics are different inside a singularity.. 😄

That does not matter.

The quest is: Why is there something instead of nothing?

The answer is: Nothingness is unstable and always becomes something.

Note: the word "always" suggests time, but time does not exist in nothingness, therefore, always is irrelevant.

A singularity and how the laws of physics work are irrelevant to nothingness.

Nothingness cannot exist. It never has and will never exist. That is the fundamental reason the universe does exist.

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
That does not matter.

The quest is: Why is there something instead of nothing?

The answer is: Nothingness is unstable and always becomes something.

Note: the word "always" suggests time, but time does not exist in nothingness, therefore, always is irrelevant.

A singularity and how the laws of physics work are irrelevant to nothingness.

Nothingness cannot exist. It never has and will never exist. That is the fundamental reason the universe does exist.

Well, nothing, as you are trying to describe, cannot exist. It would be the lack of a universe, dimension, space, matter, etc. I have no idea how to convey what I mean....but......nothing doesn't exist because there is no way to call something nothing. If you have universe with virtually measurable dimensions and it contains absolutely NOTHING...no uncertainty principles apply....then it is STILL something.

Originally posted by dadudemon
Well, nothing, as you are trying to describe, cannot exist. It would be the lack of a universe, dimension, space, matter, etc. I have no idea how to convey what I mean....but......nothing doesn't exist because there is no way to call something nothing. If you have universe with virtually measurable dimensions and it contains absolutely NOTHING...no uncertainty principles apply....then it is STILL something.

That is correct, but that is empty not nothing. Nothingness is absolutely unstable and cannot exist.

We are on the same page, but what you are trying to describe is emptiness not nothingness.

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
That is correct, but that is empty not nothing. Nothingness is absolutely unstable and cannot exist.

We are on the same page, but what you are trying to describe is emptiness not nothingness.

no..I was describing some people's definition nothingness. emptiness could be used to describe.

Originally posted by dadudemon
no..I was describing some people's definition nothingness. emptiness could be used to describe.

I wasn't being accusatory. 😄

Nothingness can be difficult to talk about and is often confused with emptiness. On another thread, that was the point I was getting at, while not letting JIA get his, "god made it" in without being challenged.