What political philosophy would work best in your ideal society?

Started by lord xyz8 pages

Originally posted by Prabhodh
Libertarian Socialism.
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Originally posted by Prabhodh
Libertarian Socialism.

Ah yes the old standby of completely self-contradictory economic theories.

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
Ah yes the old standby of completely self-contradictory economic theories.

don't tell Noam Chomsky though...

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
Ah yes the old standby of completely self-contradictory economic theories.
The apposition of all forms of inequality and oppression?

Originally posted by lord xyz
The apposition of all forms of inequality and oppression?

lol, no, we are talking about a type of socialism here 😉

Originally posted by lord xyz
The apposition of all forms of inequality and oppression?

Through the us of arch-conservative radicalism.

Originally posted by inimalist
lol, no, we are talking about a type of socialism here 😉
The misconception of socialism hits anyone these days.

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
Through the us of arch-conservative radicalism.
I don't believe the means are stated.

Originally posted by lord xyz
The misconception of socialism hits anyone these days.

I live in a socialist nation, BTW

I don't understand how something can both be for freedom and in favor of increasing that which the government has a monopoly over.

or are you talking about socialism where there is no central force designed to control the distribution of resources?

Originally posted by inimalist
I live in a socialist nation, BTW

I don't understand how something can both be for freedom and in favor of increasing that which the government has a monopoly over.

or are you talking about socialism where there is no central force designed to control the distribution of resources?

Non-state socialism.

You know, anarcho-communism like society.

It's crazy that when people hear socialism they think Soviet Union, China or Eastern Europe. Even with a word like Libertarian on the front of it.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Libertarian_socialism

Originally posted by lord xyz
Non-state socialism.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Libertarian_socialism

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Originally posted by Prabhodh
Libertarian Socialism.

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
Ah yes the old standby of completely self-contradictory economic theories.

Originally posted by inimalist
don't tell Noam Chomsky though...

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Originally posted by lord xyz
You know, anarcho-communism like society.

It's crazy that when people hear socialism they think Soviet Union, China or Eastern Europe. Even with a word like Libertarian on the front of it.

Originally posted by inimalist
or are you talking about socialism where there is no central force designed to control the distribution of resources?

"state", "community", "moral principle", without private ownership central power is required for resource collection and allocation.

Libertarian socialists put their hopes in communal ownership (don't confuse state with society), municipalities, citizen's councils -- non-bureaucratic ways.

Citizen councils would seem to defeat the purpose of having either socialistic or libertarian ideals.

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
Citizen councils would seem to defeat the purpose of having either socialistic or libertarian ideals.

I meant workers council... my bad. For self management.

Originally posted by Prabhodh
Libertarian socialists put their hopes in communal ownership (don't confuse state with society), municipalities, citizen's councils -- non-bureaucratic ways.

so, as I said, some form of central authority which takes individual's product of labour and redistributes it.

If you can't own what you make, I don't really see that as freedom :/

Originally posted by Cartesian Doubt
But you are giving value to things that will have no value unless their is higher consciousness perceiving them. In comparison its like an artist creating his masterpiece and then hiding in fear that it may get ruined, and then committing suicide in the process out of fear he may also will too. Without any one there to give value to the art work, its just an arbitrary mixture of chemicals that hold as much value a as a turd or any other composition of chemicals. We allocate value to existence, not the other way round.

In other words, if we are all dead there will be nothing to asses the value of what survives. If we die and everything else goes with us, its not going to matter because without us its just a arbitary arrangement of matter. Biology is only complicated and beutiful, because we interpret it as such. The matter itself doesn't know that its beautiful or complex, it just exists.

And you're still wrong

Originally posted by Doom and Gloom
And you're still wrong

Woah ... that wasn't Rhetorical ... not all . 🙄

Originally posted by Cartesian Doubt
Woah ... that wasn't Rhetorical ... not all . 🙄

Yeah, I tried going to Mars and dying but it didn't work.

Re: What political philosophy would work best in your ideal society?

Originally posted by Advent
Assuming you created a society, what political philosophy would you use and why?

Or would you create one of your own? If so, what would it be like?

I'd create a reosource based economy and end the monetary system like the one indicated by the "Venus Project" creator.

I'd be a better bet for mankind.

I would make vigilantism lawful. Someone did you harm, then you have the right to kill their whole family.

Haruhism