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True, but no. I'm happy as hell every time I smoke smokin'


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Means that a person who is defined as 'evil' by the sword, cannot wield it. Ganon locking swords with the MS doesn't involve him touching it directly. It's his sword that is contacting the MS. Plus Ganon probably doesn't want to actually use the Sword.

They do have a point. If someone like Midna cannot wield the MS, Kratos won't be able to.

That said, Kratos would be recognized as a more worthy possessor of the ToP; thus Kratos would become the new wielder of the ToP, and would pwn Ganon.

As to Link, you have a point. Link might not get out of Hades, and he wouldn't harm the people that Kratos killed to progress.



It's possible for Kratos just to tear out the cement block around the sword and force someone else use it. Why is this not viable?

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It's possible for Kratos just to tear out the cement block around the sword and force someone else use it. Why is this not viable?


Because that person wouldn't be able to properly use the sword, or even lift the block in the first place?

I think Kratos becoming the new wielder of the ToP based on his sheer awesomeness alone, is more viable.


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Because that person wouldn't be able to properly use the sword, or even lift the block in the first place?

I think Kratos becoming the new wielder of the ToP based on his sheer awesomeness alone, is more viable.


Can't Zelda use it?

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I dunno. Can Zelda pull out the sword?

If not, can she lift a block of cement that a 100+ Strength Level character has ripped out, and thus, would likely be quite large? Then, can she use said block of cement w. sword, to successfully strike Ganon?


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Can't Zelda use it?
No, Zelda can't use it, and even if she could, Ganon's possessed her, KO'd her, captured her, ect. Also, it's unlikely Kratos could even take the block and bypass the protection throught semantics. "I'm not technicly touching it!". no expression

Ganondorf can become wholly intangible and Kratos will have no way to harm him without the sword.


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I dunno. Can Zelda pull out the sword?

If not, can she lift a block of cement that a 100+ Strength Level character has ripped out, and thus, would likely be quite large? Then, can she use said block of cement w. sword, to successfully strike Ganon?


Maybe, assuming Kratos can rescue Zelda from Twilight. She can apparently use a sword.

It's going to make the Possessed Zelda boss fight hard, though.


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Maybe, assuming Kratos can rescue Zelda from Twilight. She can apparently use a sword.

It's going to make the Possessed Zelda boss fight hard, though.


What would he need to do to rescue her from the Twilight? If it's too much trouble for him, or if he believes that she won't benefit him in any way, he'd probably just leave her as she is. >__>

The one where Link apparently 'plays tennis' with Lightning?

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Ganondorf can become wholly intangible and Kratos will have no way to harm him without the sword.


Light Arrows wouldn't work?

Then he just uses his awesomeness to take the ToP from Ganon


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Can't Midna touch the sword? I thought whenever Link went doggy mode Midna held it for him?


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Kratos would not get his hands on Light Arrows, he needs Zelda for that in TP.


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Can't Midna touch the sword? I thought whenever Link went doggy mode Midna held it for him?
He doesn't get the light arrows.


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Zelda would liek, just fall in love with him due to his manliness, and give him Light Arrows.


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Zelda would liek, just fall in love with him due to his manliness, and give him Light Arrows.
Zelda's frigid.


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He doesn't get the light arrows.


Who has them? :O

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Doesn't Kratos need Epona for the game, too? Epona wouldn't do anything for him. Ilia would be like "**** you, you spartan ****!" and then he'd kill her and Epona would either die under Kratos' irritability or run away, both kinda screw him over.


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Who has them? :O
Zelda, who he either can't or won't rescue without the master sword. She gets them from the light spirits, who Kratos, without Midna, and the Triforce of Courage, can't/won't rescue.


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Who has them? :O


In one of the last boss fights, Zelda shoots Ganondorf with the Light Arrows while Link duels him on horseback. Link never uses them in Twilight Princess.

But to even get to Zelda, or beat the game at all, Kratos would have to enter twilight, and we haven't exactly determined what happens at that point.


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Doesn't Kratos need Epona for the game, too? Epona wouldn't do anything for him. Ilia would be like "**** you, you spartan ****!" and then he'd kill her and Epona would either die under Kratos' irritability or run away, both kinda screw him over.


He runs and jumps the game. More his style anyway.

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Zelda, who he either can't or won't rescue without the master sword. She gets them from the light spirits, who Kratos, without Midna, and the Triforce of Courage, can't/won't rescue.


Why wouldn't he have the triforce of courage or Midna?

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In one of the last boss fights, Zelda shoots Ganondorf with the Light Arrows while Link duels him on horseback. Link never uses them in Twilight Princess.

But to even get to Zelda, or beat the game at all, Kratos would have to enter twilight, and we haven't exactly determined what happens at that point.


For the sake of conviniece, I'd say it's not too far a stretch the Kratos being half god would help him fight off some of the effects of twilight magic.


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He runs and jumps the game. More his style anyway.



Why wouldn't he have the triforce of courage or Midna?
CIS is on, and he has to aquire things and go through the game like Link did. He doesn't qualify for the ToC, and Midna would anger him and he'd kill her. When he enters twilight, without protection, who knows what happens?


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He needs Epona to fight the dude that rights the giant blue pig. And he'd also need to rescue that Colin kid, who he probably wouldn't give a shit about, and therefore fail.

Edit: I don't even think he can enter Twilight without Midna's help. And he'd easily kill her out of his own irritability before he learned that.


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