makes me wonder "what silly semantics games would jesus play?"
__________________ "Your Lord knows very well what is in your heart. Your soul suffices this day as a reckoner against you. I need no witnesses. You do not listen to your soul, but listen instead to your anger and your rage."
oh great so now you're accusing me of throwing bad juju on you?how melodramatic bro.
i was simply pointing out that you are wasting energy and reaching precisely nobody (except yourself of course).
__________________ "Your Lord knows very well what is in your heart. Your soul suffices this day as a reckoner against you. I need no witnesses. You do not listen to your soul, but listen instead to your anger and your rage."
Okay. I appreciate your concern. But it isn't necessary for you to worry about me wasting energy and reaching precisely nobody. But I am trying to prevent things like this:
Did you all hear? There was a HUGE “ex-gay” press conference in Washington today. SO MANY PEOPLE!
Just kidding, there were fewer than ten people there. Big movement y’all got there. But they didn’t leave before debuting the new “ex-gay” cheer, which, honestly, if they hadn’t, I would have had to make one up for them myself.
Christopher Doyle, the Uncle Fester of the “ex-gay” industry, who won’t tell us how old the girls were that he tried to have sex with at his mother’s daycare, threw the party, and Greg Quinlan of PFOX showed up (but NOT in a “flaming ******” way), and so did Doyle’s colleague Richard Cohen, and also Douglas McIntyre of Homosexuals Anonymous! Together they spoke to four or five other people and then they left.
Success! Seriously, look at this party:
(please log in to view the image)
Hoo-boy. Also, Chuck Peters, an alleged “ex-gay,” debuted this new cheer for their “movement,” which goes:
“HIP HIP HURRAY FOR EX-GAYS. HIP HIP HURRAY FOR EX-GAYS. HIP HIP HURRAY FOR EX-GAYS.”
This proves that when you go in to get de-gayed, they take all of the creativity and rhythm away from you as well.
Still sounds gay to me. It’s a pity the seven other people in attendance didn’t join in the cheer.
It’s even funnier because, as Right Wing Watch reports, Christopher Doyle talked to Sandy Rios yesterday, and Sandy confidently assured listeners that “thousands” of people would be showing up for this groundbreaking event. Stop laughing, she was being serious.
Christopher Doyle then explained that, in reality, there are “tens of thousands” of “ex-gays” out there, but they’re all scared to leave their houses because gay people are mean to them. Stop laughing, he really believes this stuff.
2. Do you strongly dislike the fact that there are people out there that once identified as "homosexual" that now identify as "heterosexual"?
3. Is your self-identity tied very closely to your sexuality making positions like his offensive or rather, is your sexual identity predicted on the idea of an invariable sexuality?
Just to be clear, I think sexuality can be dynamic...mostly because of science.
a clever way of evading the fact the the purpose of these 'ex-gays' its to 'prove' that homosexuality is a choice via anecdotal evidence of all 9 people at this apparent rally.
they are not simply expressing pride over their supposed redefining their sexual orientation but rather trying to delegitimize all homosexuals as equal citizens...based on their likely decision to not have enjoyable sex anymore.
how would you feel about an 'ex mormon' rally where people declare that their lives have been turned around by rejecting mormonism on the grounds that its unnatural and evil? all good man?
__________________ "Your Lord knows very well what is in your heart. Your soul suffices this day as a reckoner against you. I need no witnesses. You do not listen to your soul, but listen instead to your anger and your rage."
1. Evading? Why would my question be evading? Why can't the assumptions be left up to the person I am asking the question to rather than you adding erroneous assumptions?
2. Why is it not possible for people's sexual leanings to change over time when we have real research that shows this to be true?
3. When I am not at work, I'll actually give you my "real" response.
Forgive me for not being intimately farmiliar with all the perspectives of their movement. But, from what I saw, everything you said here was not covered in their "huge press-conference". Seemed they were wanting recognition and to stop the "abuse" they are getting. Now, I could be wrong in my superficial understanding of what they were trying to do. I'm just going by what they said.
lol
So all of these groups think that being gay is unnatural and evil?
Also, ...you clearly are not aware of the "anti-mormon" indstury that exists:
The anti-Mormon movement has existed before they were even called "Mormons." The ex-Mormon stuff has existed since people could quit the church. There is nothing new, there. If a person is a Mormon and is not aware that people out their think Mormonism is an evil, depraved, or satanic cult, they definitely live sheltered lives. Like...really really sheltered.
Edit - For instance, one of the groups said/harped on "you don't stop being attracted to the same sex". I cannot get into while at work but I'll put it much more bluntly in about...4 hours.
The study I posted, many of the participants in the sample reported "straight fantasies" in the beginning. As time went on, their sexuality changed and fantasies became more and more homosexual.
Unless you believe that it is only possible to go from pretty dang straight to pretty dang gay, it makes no sense to assume no one’s sexuality can never change from “gay” to “straight.” Yes, our choices and environment really do influence our sexuality. No one is “born gay” or "born straight." That’s just stupid.
Are you passive-aggressively insinuating that, because a select group of homosexuals hate ex-homosexuals for converting to heterosexuality, the Bible's assertion of homosexuality as being a sinful practice is somehow proven valid?
This has got to be the most asinine and illogical statement I've ever seen.
__________________ "Compounding these trickster aspects, the Joker ethos is verbally explicated as such by his psychiatrist, who describes his madness as "super-sanity." Where "sanity" previously suggested acquiescence with cultural codes, the addition of "super" implies that this common "sanity" has been replaced by a superior form, in which perception and processing are completely ungoverned and unconstrained"
Last edited by KillaKassara on Aug 20th, 2013 at 10:47 PM
it makes sense if you decide to believe that homosexuality is an addiction by choice based on the anecdotal evidence of 9 people who are rallying on capital hill. but we're supposed to pretend that none of this is obviously anti-homosexual in purpose...or else ddm's pseudo-objective sensibilities will be offended.
__________________ "Your Lord knows very well what is in your heart. Your soul suffices this day as a reckoner against you. I need no witnesses. You do not listen to your soul, but listen instead to your anger and your rage."
I just want those who are actively living the homosexual lifestyle to know that there is liberty from that abominable, sinful practice through Jesus Christ.
God has zero tolerance for the sin of homosexuality. Those who do such things will not enter the Kingdom of Heaven, so I want to point as many of those living that lifestyle to Jesus so that they can become free.
KMC Community Forums
Aug 19th, 2013 06:12 PM
