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I actually happen to be German, so Obama is not my commander in chief. The main decisions that led to this were made by the Bush administration anyways.


As much as you talk about Obama's badassery, I didn't think it mattered where you live, he's your guy. After all borders should not determine citizenship or political beliefs.


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As much as you talk about Obama's badassery, I didn't think it mattered where you live, he's your guy. After all borders should not determine citizenship or political beliefs.


lol, well borders don't determine citizenship necessarily, that is true.


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I think B42's point is, if you helped burn down someone's house, the moral thing would be to offer them a room at your place, figuratively speaking.

It's a shame more and more states are being immoral. Do hope California doesn't take the path, I'd even be fine with all 65K coming in CA.


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[B]thats an interesting chart. it would seem to indicate that the 1st generation immigrants aren't the real problem, their kids (and the generations after that) are.
That's right, immigrants don't cause nearly as much troubleas citizens.

In fact, it would seem that the only immigrants in US history who **** shit up the moment they arrive are white ones, as I'm sure Antonio de Santa Anna and Opechancanough will attest to.

Anyway, now that we've found established that immigrants by and large do not pose a threat to national security, on what imperative are you arguing that we should bar them from the country?

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send them to the moon for all i care.
Fair enough, so long as you're the first one on the rocket.


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War has consequences. It's unfortunate, but true. If people want to say we should do it because it is our fault then anyone who is running for president and was even a tiny bit in favor of doing what we did to cause this should never hold the job of president.


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War has consequences. It's unfortunate, but true. If people want to say we should do it because it is our fault then anyone who is running for president and was even a tiny bit in favor of doing what we did to cause this should never hold the job of president.


That's a non-sequitur.


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Yeah, I probably should of put it in the general primary thread, my bad.


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Yeah, I probably should of put it in the general primary thread, my bad.


No, I mean it makes no sense.

Why does having to do humanitarian work after a war mean that everyone that is for the war should be categorically discounted from the presidency?


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You say we caused it. You say over a million people are refugee's in your country, and 65,000 here. If we caused something that made that many people flee then it's just another thing to add to the list of clusterf*cks of the war.

So for me I don't want someone who was in favor of something that caused that much damage. But that is just me.


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You say we caused it. You say over a million people are refugee's in your country, and 65,000 here. If we caused something that made that many people flee then it's just another thing to add to the list of clusterf*cks of the war.

So for me I don't want someone who was in favor of something that caused that much damage. But that is just me.


That makes sense as a personal decision. I mean there's not that many people left then though, Rand Paul and Bernie Sanders, I suppose.


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Oh yes, the main one is waging the Iraq war, destabilising the region leading to the rise of ISIS.
...nah. you can blame the us for ISIS, sure. you can't blame the US alone for the arab spring, which is actually what led to the syrian situation.

btw are we as liberals still supposed to support the broad that wanted to give more help to the syrian rebels... which in turn ended up being arming al nusra/isis?


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I am proud to live in one of the states refusing to accept the Unvetted Syrian Invaders.


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I am proud to live in one of the states refusing to accept the Unvetted Syrian Invaders.



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I just had an idea. If Obama empties Gitmo.
WE COULD SEND THEM ALL THERE!

Places is practically Pleasure Resort.

It is on a tropical island after all and it is Winter in The U.S

Wouldn't want the refugees getting cold.


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seriously though look at this green text typing guy above me to see why the prospect of importing a ton of sunni arab musilms from syria into this country makes me nervous

you guys really think this is a good idea? you might start a holy war or something, lol. i mean yea we have "tons of space"... technically speaking that is. problem is most of the "space" is in redneck country. most of this country is white as **** and christian as ****. the few metropolitan areas like the ny philly cali chicago texas south florida etc that might be somewhat accomodating... there's not so much "space" in these places. they're generally crowded and expensive as ****. if syrian refugees can hack it there then sure.. it wouldn't be so bad.. but what are the chances that these people are going to have any economic prospects here? they're from a war torn impoverished part of the world. a good number of them are young unemployed males. honestly. we all know how demographics like that do in large metropolitan urban centers


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I agree with Redy. Only put them in Blue States where they will be safe.


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No one should be allowed into the US.

I don't care if you're a US citizen and you're just on vacation, sorry, US is closed.


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GWB has a lot of room on his ranch out in Crawford, Tx.


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So does Hillary in one of her 15 million dollar mansions.


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No it shouldn't be foisted onto Taxpayers to take care of foreigners. For all of the altruistic libs who are generous with the money of others, what's preventing them from hosting them in their own homes and paying for their livelihoods?


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