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is Darth Sidious really Palpatine?
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Dim
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It seems so. I can't think of an explanation for it.


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krautrocker
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this is a silly discussion p[alpatine is sidious. He has to be. Not only do palpatine and sidious look identical , in the rare shots where you can see a little of sidious face (say his chin which has the same dimple etc as palpatine) but the scene in TPM where palpatine becomes flusterd when the queen decides to go back to naboo , something he wasn't expecting. Palpatine ooozes evil and snake like personality in TPM and looks like sidious , we know he has the same goals in the end as sidious , talks like sidious and at the end of TPM says to anakin 'we will watch your carear with great interest'. If this isn't enough at in the funeral scene when it talks about the sith master it focuses on him!!! What we have to remember is while these are obvious indications to us the older audience of who he really is , the kids the 6 year olds probab;ly wont get it' It is very very obvious that sidious is palpatine.

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Darth_Hible
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i know but Read the new Star Wars book. Cloak of Despection and it will blow your mind away. i know they are the same. smokin'


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queeq
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But that's EU, not much of a reliable source. laughing out loud


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Yeah evil face

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krautrocker
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for anyone who doubts that sidious is palpatine go to starwars.com databank under sidious look at his EU section and you can clearly see his face. One interesting note however is that himself and palpatine are given different heights.

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i know they need to correct that real fast. smokin' evil face


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If you look at the Palpatine one, they are clearly referring to gim as seen in ROTK because they mention his Force Lightening and his affiliation is listed as Empire, Sith.

I would therefore suggest the height measurements are correct as the ROTJ era Palpatine walked with a visible stoop of the spine, thus making him shorter.

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queeq
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Yup, in essence SW is a very simple story. Don't expect too complicated things from GL.


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After all, ANH hit the big time on virtually the simplest possible story. And the ESB twist was pretty simple as well. All part of its greatness.


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Amen


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im having second thoughts, I think GL wants us to think that Sidious is Palpy even though we dont know for sure we are so certain, there could be a possibility that he is somone else to fool us.. roll eyes (sarcastic)


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Yeah, I went through the stage of thinking it was a big trick as well, and while I won't absolutely rule anything out, the more time goes by the more this looks like a very simple thing.

Anyway, it's hardly as if a sudden twist here will actually improve the story. We know the score, we know the good guys will lose, so let's just roll with it.


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And so say all of us...

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Darth Pants
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Anyone read the Ian McDiarmid interview in the Star Wars magazine?
He described some of Palpatine's character in Episode 2. He's convinced that he's supposed to be evil, he talked about his ability to "turn it on", referring to a scene in Ep2 where he's close to tears. Interesting stuff, which backs up the whole Sidious = Palpy idea.

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Yeah, I read that.

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So we need more back-up, do we?


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Darth_Hible
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I am impressed yof you guys. you guys are true to the core Star Wars Fans and i may say that for all those who think Papatine is not Sidious they must be Trekie or somthing. well lets get more and more and more proof on how they are the same. evil face rolling on floor laughing rolling on floor laughing rolling on floor laughing rolling on floor laughing smokin'


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-Darth Sidious

What is thy Bidding My Master?
-Darth Vader

Fear Fear Atttracts the Fearful The Storng, The Weak, The Inocent, The Ceroupt, Fear is my alliy
- Darth Maul

"I Bring you good news my lord. The War has begun"
- Darth Tyranus

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well i know theres got to be more proof. smokin'


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You Like Your father are now Mine
-Darth Sidious

What is thy Bidding My Master?
-Darth Vader

Fear Fear Atttracts the Fearful The Storng, The Weak, The Inocent, The Ceroupt, Fear is my alliy
- Darth Maul

"I Bring you good news my lord. The War has begun"
- Darth Tyranus

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Bragg2012
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you REALLY want this thread to go on forever dont you?

The thing is we cant get proof unless any is leaked from Ep2 people or untill we see EP2 and 3.


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