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I think a couple of them are strong enough to the point where Superman's strength isn't going to clearly surpass theirs in such a decisive manner outside of an amp.


Pretty much.

I'm tempted to list them, but that would be a big can of worms...


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Re: Are marvel heralds as strong/stronger than superman

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based on feats .

Thor-destroy a planet by hitting it with mljonir
Herculese-bench pressed the weigth of the earth
Gladiator-destroyed a planet much bigger than earth, destroy a star etc
Hulk-physically overpowered a planet from exploding, destroying a planet twice the size of earth with a punch, and can basically out muscle everyone in this thread.


The only 2 on that list that is stronger is Gladiator and Hulk.

Herc... pretty much equals, if I had to give a edge, it would be Supes. Going by feats, it would be Herc... the guy held the Universe up.

Thor and Superman are equals but I would give Thor the edge with hitting power via hammer. That hammer has some amazing destruction feats.


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I think on average they're all about even. Supes perhaps having more high end feats/showings.
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Pretty much.

I'm tempted to list them, but that would be a big can of worms...


list them please

imo in a straight up lifting competition they are all exactly equal at base level except hulk who has to amp to reach that level.

But hulk's amp is inevitable if it is a brawl and he will become the strongest here.


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list them please

imo in a straight up lifting competition they are all exactly equal at base level except hulk who has to amp to reach that level.

But hulk's amp is inevitable if it is a brawl and he will become the strongest here.


The only ones i'd argue as being stronger are Thor or Hulk, and even then you could argue that Superman is stronger than they are too (bar Hulk's potential limitlessness).

Herc has some pretty decent strength feats, so he's in the same ball park.

Gladiator, Bill, Norrin and the like do lag behind, and the feats back this up, imo.


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Gladiator, Bill, Norrin and the like do lag behind, and the feats back this up, imo.


Wow.


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Wow.


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Re: Are marvel heralds as strong/stronger than superman

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Originally posted by Colossus-Big C
based on feats .

Thor-destroy a planet by hitting it with mljonir
Herculese-bench pressed the weigth of the earth
Gladiator-destroyed a planet much bigger than earth, destroy a star etc
Hulk-physically overpowered a planet from exploding, destroying a planet twice the size of earth with a punch, and can basically out muscle everyone in this thread.


When did Thor destroy a planet?

I'd say in general comparable strength, with DC being faster (Glads, Norrin, and Nova being comparable, however), and two of Marvel's being stronger: Hulk is potentially stronger, and classic Drax is stronger than any herald in Marvel or DC.


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Lol...You all are drivng me half crazy with these kind of statements about Gladiator.


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Lol...You all are drivng me half crazy with these kind of statements about Gladiator.


Does that mean he is making you more sane?


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Does that mean he is making you more sane?


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Non of that list are stronger than Superman using high/average feats, Gladiator is prolly the weakest from that bunch.


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Nobody is as strong as him and Hulk is the only one with the potential to be so. Thor/Hercules are closer to Wonder Woman than him. Gladiator doesn't have the feats, and certainly not anywhere near the relative showings against other Marvel top-heralds to say he's at his level.


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Nobody is as strong as him and Hulk is the only one with the potential to be so. Thor/Hercules are closer to Wonder Woman than him. Gladiator doesn't have the feats, and certainly not anywhere near the relative showings against other Marvel top-heralds to say he's at his level.
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Nobody is as strong as him and Hulk is the only one with the potential to be so. Thor/Hercules are closer to Wonder Woman than him. Gladiator doesn't have the feats, and certainly not anywhere near the relative showings against other Marvel top-heralds to say he's at his level.


This will go over well. Philo you certainly have a big pair, I'll give you that.

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Phil is becoming Trick.


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Phil is becoming Trick.
I certainly don't recall him being this brazen.

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Phil is becoming Trick.


No, Phil is right; remember that the marvel characters have to be judged by their AVERAGES -- their low feats have to be taken into account. Contrast this with superman (whose low feats are all PIS, and therefore not taken into account), and it is clear who is teh strongest wun der iz.


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This will go over well. Philo you certainly have a big pair, I'll give you that.
There's nothing there that's not supported by the comics. In fact, the canon confrontations between Wonder Woman/Hercules and Superman/Thor show exactly that.


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