did the driver shoot jfk?
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william cooper claimed that William Greer, the driver of JFK's Lincoln Continental on November 22, turned and shot the president with a .45. The answering machine messages were hilarious in that each one reflected Cooper becoming progressively more drunk, and ended finally with him threatening to visit the alleged thief to slash the tires of his car.
I even came to Cooper's defense over the JFK thing. A .45 slug was found on Elm Street after JFK's assassination. The Lincoln's brake lights do come on in the Zapruder film, suggesting that Greer might have had some involvement in a conspiracy. True, Cooper was using an atrociously bad copy of the Z-film to "show" that Greer with a gun in his hand. (The full story of the "Driver Did It" theory is found in an unpublished affidavit on the subject by a writer named Lars Hanson that few have read.)
hey killed president Kennedy and during the workshop, for those of you haven't seen the tape, I will show you, on the tape, who shot the president and why. Between '70 and '73, in Operation Majority it stated verbatim that President Kennedy ordered MJ-12 to cease the importation and sale of drugs to the American people, that he ordered them to implement a plan to reveal the presence of aliens to the American people within the following year. His assassination was ordered by the policy committee of the Vilderbergers. MJ-12 implemented the plan and carried it out in Dallas. It involved agents of the CIA, Division-5 of the FBI, the Secret Service, and the office of Naval Intelligence. President Kennedy was killed by the driver of his car, his name was William Greer, he used a recoilless, electrically operated, gas-powered assassination pistol that was specially built by the CIA to assassinate people at close range. It fired an explosive pellet which injected a large amount of shellfish poison into the brain, an that is why, in the documents, it stated that President Kennedy's brain was removed. If you've studied the case, you will find that indeed his brain disappeared. The reason for that is so that they would not find the particles of the exploding pellet or the shellfish poison in his brain which would have proved conclusively that Lee Harvey Oswald was NOT the assassin. In fact, Lee Harvey Oswald never fired a shot, he was the patsy."
during one of his talks:
A muffled question was barely heard coming from the front of the room which in essence asked, "What about all the people in the press and others who were in Dallas and who saw the assassination? Couldn't they tell where the shot came from, why didn't they come forward? There must have been plenty."
"There was, we know that there was at least 18 who were all murdered within 2-years of the event. The odds of that happening are 1 in 300,000 trillion," Cooper replied.
Again a muffled question, "Why did the DRIVER have to shoot Kennedy?"
"Because the other fools missed! There were a total of 3-shots fired at President Kennedy, one hit him in the throat and didn't kill him and 2 of them hit John Connelly [sp]. The one that was fired from the grassy knoll hit the president in the throat. The other 2-shots came from directly behind the limousine, not the school book depository building, and hit Governor Connelly. Governor Connelly, in intelligence community circles, is known as a `can do' man, because he took 2-hits and still kept his mouth shut."
"How is it that the driver, sitting on the front, left-hand side of the car was able to blow off the right side of Kennedy's brain when the bullet actually entered in, and it would have been virtually impossible..." another person asked.
Mr. Cooper seized the gist of his question and injected, "For those of you who have been listening to all these talk show hosts, whose job it is to be a talk show host, and who have not done any legitimate research into this, if you come to the workshop, I will show you, on the tape, how it was done. You will see that Kennedy was, in fact slumped over against Jackie, his head was turned [this direction], it was very simple, it was easy and you will see it with your own eyes."
Another muffled, off-mike question from a member of the audience inquiring why no one else had come forward with the information Mr. Cooper was disseminating, and why those who knew it had kept it secret for so long was quickly answered, "It hasn't been, I'm talkin' about it now. Bill English was talkin' about it 8-years ago but everybody laughed at Bill English. John Lear's been talkin' about it for 3-years and everybody laughed at him. Now there's so many people have been talkin' about it, people are startin' to listen and it's about time. Because it's about time we that we quit being fools, and that's exactly what they think we are and we prove it to them every day."
Originally posted by Deano
did the driver shoot jfk?view the gif to see
http://www.jfkmurdersolved.com/images/zaplow.gif
william cooper claimed that William Greer, the driver of JFK's Lincoln Continental on November 22, turned and shot the president with a .45. The answering machine messages were hilarious in that each one reflected Cooper becoming progressively more drunk, and ended finally with him threatening to visit the alleged thief to slash the tires of his car.
I even came to Cooper's defense over the JFK thing. A .45 slug was found on Elm Street after JFK's assassination. The Lincoln's brake lights do come on in the Zapruder film, suggesting that Greer might have had some involvement in a conspiracy. True, Cooper was using an atrociously bad copy of the Z-film to "show" that Greer with a gun in his hand. (The full story of the "Driver Did It" theory is found in an unpublished affidavit on the subject by a writer named Lars Hanson that few have read.)
hey killed president Kennedy and during the workshop, for those of you haven't seen the tape, I will show you, on the tape, who shot the president and why. Between '70 and '73, in Operation Majority it stated verbatim that President Kennedy ordered MJ-12 to cease the importation and sale of drugs to the American people, that he ordered them to implement a plan to reveal the presence of aliens to the American people within the following year. His assassination was ordered by the policy committee of the Vilderbergers. MJ-12 implemented the plan and carried it out in Dallas. It involved agents of the CIA, Division-5 of the FBI, the Secret Service, and the office of Naval Intelligence. President Kennedy was killed by the driver of his car, his name was William Greer, he used a recoilless, electrically operated, gas-powered assassination pistol that was specially built by the CIA to assassinate people at close range. It fired an explosive pellet which injected a large amount of shellfish poison into the brain, an that is why, in the documents, it stated that President Kennedy's brain was removed. If you've studied the case, you will find that indeed his brain disappeared. The reason for that is so that they would not find the particles of the exploding pellet or the shellfish poison in his brain which would have proved conclusively that Lee Harvey Oswald was NOT the assassin. In fact, Lee Harvey Oswald never fired a shot, he was the patsy."
during one of his talks:
A muffled question was barely heard coming from the front of the room which in essence asked, "What about all the people in the press and others who were in Dallas and who saw the assassination? Couldn't they tell where the shot came from, why didn't they come forward? There must have been plenty."
"There was, we know that there was at least 18 who were all murdered within 2-years of the event. The odds of that happening are 1 in 300,000 trillion," Cooper replied.
Again a muffled question, "Why did the DRIVER have to shoot Kennedy?"
"Because the other fools missed! There were a total of 3-shots fired at President Kennedy, one hit him in the throat and didn't kill him and 2 of them hit John Connelly [sp]. The one that was fired from the grassy knoll hit the president in the throat. The other 2-shots came from directly behind the limousine, not the school book depository building, and hit Governor Connelly. Governor Connelly, in intelligence community circles, is known as a `can do' man, because he took 2-hits and still kept his mouth shut."
"How is it that the driver, sitting on the front, left-hand side of the car was able to blow off the right side of Kennedy's brain when the bullet actually entered in, and it would have been virtually impossible..." another person asked.
Mr. Cooper seized the gist of his question and injected, "For those of you who have been listening to all these talk show hosts, whose job it is to be a talk show host, and who have not done any legitimate research into this, if you come to the workshop, I will show you, on the tape, how it was done. You will see that Kennedy was, in fact slumped over against Jackie, his head was turned [this direction], it was very simple, it was easy and you will see it with your own eyes."
Another muffled, off-mike question from a member of the audience inquiring why no one else had come forward with the information Mr. Cooper was disseminating, and why those who knew it had kept it secret for so long was quickly answered, "It hasn't been, I'm talkin' about it now. Bill English was talkin' about it 8-years ago but everybody laughed at Bill English. John Lear's been talkin' about it for 3-years and everybody laughed at him. Now there's so many people have been talkin' about it, people are startin' to listen and it's about time. Because it's about time we that we quit being fools, and that's exactly what they think we are and we prove it to them every day."
for a long time it was a theory that a lot of researchers believed in and clung to.It was a good theory because Greer did have CIA connections.But if you look at the zapruder film closely,the whole time Greer has his hands on the steering wheel though so thay now discount that theory.He was involved for sure.Thats why he puts on the breaks and waits for the head shot to occur instead of speeding away immediately which was against all secret service training.He was involved but he never pulled the trigger.
Originally posted by Deano
that bullet couldnt of come from where they said it did. look at where the bullet hit and where his head went
well if your referring to the warren commission report everybody knows that.The warren commission is like the 9-11 commission,a fairy tale.Thats the thing those two cases have in common and why they are such huge controversy's is the explanations given by the government don't fit the facts of the case.You have all these coincidences that become so ridiculous,that they don't become coincidences anymore.The fatal head shot a lot of researchers think, came not from the grassy knoll-which they thought for so long,but actually from the sewer drainage area.What researchers now think is that the team on the grassy knoll that fired the shots was just there to fire the shots as a diversion to get everybodys attention away from the sewers.Nobody would have thought for a second to check the sewers which would explain his headshot which goes back and to the left.Witnesses have also said that they thought they heard muffled loud sounds coming from below back then around the sewer drainage area.Of course they would never have guessed that shots were being fired from the sewer drainage area then so nobody checked that especially since they were more keenly focused on the shooters on the grassy knoll. I been down to that sewer drainage area in dallas and its all walled up with concreate now but back then it led to an escape route to a river.
Originally posted by Mr Parker
wouldnt you agree Scythe that if you refer a person to a book where the author is someone who served under the adminsitration of that president and has documentation in that book to prove that everything you are saying about that president is true and its a book you can easily find at a library and you refer that person to read that book to see for themselves what they're saying is true and they never bother to take you up on that challenge to read that book that they must be afraid that what your saying is true and they dont want to see it? I cant tell you how many countless of times I have done that with him and yet he never takes me up on that challenge to read the book I refer him to.I know he ignored Deano as well on at least one occassion when Deano challenged him to read a book that proved what he was saying was true. His logic is hysterical. 😆 He talks about how he claims he has debunked something,yet he wont take you up on a challenge to read a book you refer him to that proves him wrong . 😆 yeah thats really debunking something,not reading a book that documents what your saying to be true. 🙄 I seriously have never encountered anybody here in this section whos logic is as hysterical as his is. 😆 thats why I wont bother with him anymore,unlike that poster Grand I mentioned,he's not worth my time.I should have known I had him on my ignore list in the first place for a good reason.I wont make that mistake again of taking him off it.
Now, I do believe when a reference is made, the subject matter should at least receive an effort to be studied regardless if it was handed to easily. That however is all up to xyz.
Originally posted by ScytheScythe, he didn't tell me anything to do with it, apart from it's "well known" and one website about it. I was not only uniterested, but didn't see the point, or the validity or reliability of the website. So I took it with a pinch of salt.
Now, I do believe when a reference is made, the subject matter should at least receive an effort to be studied regardless if it was handed to easily. That however is all up to xyz.
Originally posted by lord xyz
Scythe, he didn't tell me anything to do with it, apart from it's "well known" and one website about it. I was not only uniterested, but didn't see the point, or the validity or reliability of the website. So I took it with a pinch of salt.
Then you made the right decision for the most part, I'm a firm believer in backing up one's arguments with solid evidence.
