Originally posted by FistOfThe NorthI would agree. Because the inevitable fall, connected with the deaths through starvation and many, many other problems would create such a strong, unshakable faith in Capitalism for so many generations to come that humanity would live in absolute peace and prosperity for centuries.
I'd create a reosource based economy and end the monetary system like the one indicated by the "Venus Project" creator.I'd be a better bet for mankind.
A form of social democraticism, I would assume. Key principles would be:
1. Complete separation of Church and State; no religious influence in political decisions whatsoever. All decisions are based upon scientific rationalism rather than faith.
2. Equalized opportunity is ensured via progressive taxation. This is because the government grants one integral services that you might not even be aware of, and, to put it simply, taxes are the price we must pay for civilization- everybody has a contribution to pay for the larger society and function towards the greater good. The wealthy are capable of paying more while still being capable of surviving, and thus they should be taxed more- it is better to shift the strain of taxation upon the people who can take it than placing it upon the middle class, who cannot. Humans are, by their very nature, social creatures, and that has to be nurtured and developed due to its economic and societal efficiency.
It will not be a communist society, however- hard work will be rewarded. However, in order to make sure that people who do succeed in life do so because of their individualistic merit rather than because of chance and societal favoritism, than equal opportunity must be ensured- lest people born to the rich will have a far easier time of staying rich and becoming more rich due to factors that they, themselves, did not control. It is the hypocrisy of economic rightists: they claim to support individual self-reliance, but yet they enable a system to be created that enables people to succeed not based on their actual attributes and personal merit.
3. The government must adopt the approach of the 'collective for the individual', and must understand that the part of the human psyche that is controllable is direct societal influence. Therefore, changing societal influences changes the individual- while the component of free will exists and should be acknowledged, it is a random variable that cannot be itself changed.
4. The government will be more concerned with preventing crime than punishing it, which means alleviation of the psychological causes for criminality is infinitely more important than punishing those whose actions have already taken place. It is more efficient and more just.
5. Because everything we have is derived from the planet, and because of the deaths and ramifications of harming the environment, than protecting it is a highly important priority- even if it comes at the expense of yet another private jet for some CEO. Chief problems are global warming and the less-spoken problem of overpopulation: make tax reforms to discourage having more than two children and provide further sex ed and family planning programs in order to make sure that we focus upon the idea of 'quality over quantity' and seek to deter population explosion, both internally and externally. The problem is thus: supplies are limited. More people = more demand. This means that supplies will cost more. This, in turn, means that the average standard of living will be reduced and that there will be more poverty and starvation- and we are not will to do that, correct? For that reason, if we wish to effectively maintain our current standard of living, than we must lower or keep the population in the way it currently is: which means that having more children should stop being glorified, because that simply harms society rather than assists it.
6. Keep abortion legal and grant gays universal adoption and marriage right. Hell, legalize all forms of sex- and that includes prostitution.
7. Begin with legalizing marijuana and, if that is not sufficient, legalize all drugs: enable people to do as they desire with their own individual body, but make the health risks of these drugs very well-known and ensure that the drugs that are sold are hygienic. It will grant more freedom, reduce organized crime, help fight terrorism, assist the economy, etc. I do not believe that drugs cause violence; they can trigger it, but they, themselves, are not the actual cause of it.
8. Universal health care. Now.
9. Keep gun control laws, but don't actually ban them. It simply does not work and will not work.
10. Adopt a foreign policy that is engined by diplomacy: do not engage in a war unless it is absolutely necessary and all possible alternatives to it have been explored, and, except in extreme cases, act internationally and with distinct cooperation with the world. It opens multiple possibilities and enables to come to more efficient solutions, and ultimately leads toward a better world- cooperation and coordination between countries is integral. Acknowledge that blowing up countries is not humanitarian, by any stretch of the definition, certainly when there are always other solutions available and that finances that are exclusively spent upon healing rather than destroying will always lead towards the saving of more lives.
Support trade and globalization, but maintain environmental and working standards in this agreement. Encourage countries to become more benevolent and more democratic by giving them a logical incentive and a reward for it, rather than blowing them up if they do not agree.
11. Execute Rush Limbaugh, Ann Coutler, Sean Hannity, and Bill O'reily.
I understand that this is a utopian fantasy that will probably not, realistically, ever come to pass, but, hey, this thread isn't for realistic propositions, eh?
Originally posted by Bardock42
I would agree. Because the inevitable fall, connected with the deaths through starvation and many, many other problems would create such a strong, unshakable faith in Capitalism for so many generations to come that humanity would live in absolute peace and prosperity for centuries.
Until that collapses from the inside out due to corruption and creates a similarly utopian communist state.
Originally posted by Bardock42
I would agree. Because the inevitable fall, connected with the deaths through starvation and many, many other problems would create such a strong, unshakable faith in Capitalism for so many generations to come that humanity would live in absolute peace and prosperity for centuries.
I didn't quite understand.
or are you being sarcastic..
Originally posted by Master CrimzonNo matter the prevention taken, there will always be anomalies. Punishment should still be a large factor, albeit secondary.
4. The government will be more concerned with preventing crime than punishing it, which means alleviation of the psychological causes for criminality is infinitely more important than punishing those whose actions have already taken place. It is more efficient and more just.
Originally posted by Master CrimzonI just don't see how allowing powerful narcotics to have an acceptable place in every day society will promote either healthy living or a suitable place to live.
7. Begin with legalizing marijuana and, if that is not sufficient, legalize all drugs: enable people to do as they desire with their own individual body, but make the health risks of these drugs very well-known and ensure that the drugs that are sold are hygienic. It will grant more freedom, reduce organized crime, help fight terrorism, assist the economy, etc. I do not believe that drugs cause violence; they can trigger it, but they, themselves, are not the actual cause of it.
Originally posted by Master CrimzonI'd like to add Barbara Walters to that list.
11. Execute Rush Limbaugh, Ann Coutler, Sean Hannity, and Bill O'reily.
Originally posted by Lord Lucien
I just don't see how allowing powerful narcotics to have an acceptable place in every day society will promote either healthy living or a suitable place to live.
Legalized drugs can be quality controlled, restricted and given proper education about. Illegal drugs are totally at the whims of the dealers and available to everyone.
Originally posted by Lord Lucien
I just don't see how allowing powerful narcotics to have an acceptable place in every day society will promote either healthy living or a suitable place to live.
drug legalization is not "allowing" someone to do anything
making drugs illegal does not stop anyone from using them
none.I would give everybody a holodeck and replicatorso they could live out theire ervy fantasy.the holodeck would also provide them sustenace so they could stay in their dream.The population would obviously die out.but at least they won't die painfully,and for the moment the population is alive,it would be a perfect society.
Originally posted by gobstakid777
none.I would give everybody a holodeck and replicatorso they could live out theire ervy fantasy.the holodeck would also provide them sustenace so they could stay in their dream.The population would obviously die out.but at least they won't die painfully,and for the moment the population is alive,it would be a perfect society.
That's a really stupid system. With holodecks and replicators you have a post scarcity economy. You'd be able to redefine economic and society completely.
I can't believe I never noticed this.
Originally posted by inimalist"Allow" is a general term. Making drugs legal doesn't dissuade people who don't care about their effects from using them. That was 3 months late, but there ya go.
drug legalization is not "allowing" someone to do anythingmaking drugs illegal does not stop anyone from using them
Originally posted by gobstakid777So... you're retarded?
none.I would give everybody a holodeck and replicatorso they could live out theire ervy fantasy.the holodeck would also provide them sustenace so they could stay in their dream.The population would obviously die out.but at least they won't die painfully,and for the moment the population is alive,it would be a perfect society.
Originally posted by Lord Lucien
I can't believe I never noticed this."Allow" is a general term. Making drugs legal doesn't dissuade people who don't care about their effects from using them. That was 3 months late, but there ya go.
So... you're retarded?