Re: Re: spider-man with class 100 strength vs thor
its hard to see how someone can be class 100 and yet have an ordenery durability i mean a class 100 punch will just tear the meat and bone of a person if he doesnt have the durability to back it up or the weight he lifts
it's negligible against thor, whom is a planet crusher.
the only thing that varies the severity of defeat spider-man receives is thor's mood.
thor's votexes are both defensive and offensive, he just has to create one around him and spider-man can't do shit. thor doesn't have to lay a finger on him.
well i do agree that thor will murder spider-man in a fight if he will use all his powers there are a lot of ways for him to win BUT if its only a h2h fight then spider-man will take the majority
he's not strong enough, in this thread spider-man just has a strength multiplier of ten. thor's strength is in the Xillions of tons even while holding back.
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now i understand that you like thor, and we agree already that thor can beat spider-man even with class 100 due to vast power set but if we are talking only about hand to hand seriously you have to be a fanboy to tell me thor can beat a class 100 spider-man in a hand 2 hand fight
spider-man is by far faster, way more agile, and got better reflex then thor which means thor wont be landing a single hit on him unless spider-man wants him to, if spider-man gets class 100 strength he will be beating the hell out of thor without even getting tagged if we ignore all the PIS because if you want PIS then thor lost to captain america in a brawl but we both are smarter then that so seriously h2h only spider-man stomp
godly physical stats and lvl 7 fighting skills and experience with ftl reflex vs a 100 ton spidey who still has no experience and very little knowledge of h2h fighting other then his instinct base style?
spidey may land a dozen or half a dozen "if" he is lucky before thor grabs him and start landing his punches, elbows headbutt and knee shots..
it comes down to skill/knowledge something spidey is still missing in spades/ spidey only looks competent b/c he fights similar stat beings with low skills.
what? since when is thor a 7 in fighting skills? i see people here really love thor dont you? thor was never a skilled fighter he gets beat up h2h by hulk and hercules and he even lost to captain america thor is no where near a skilled fighter he is just a brawler who likes to slug it out with his fists, when hercules was choking him thor couldnt do anything if he had any fighting skills at all he would avoide that choke he got from hercules, when thor is fighting hercules h2h hercules is always having the edge so dont you even dare to say thor is a skilled fighter he is just a browler
ftl reflex? please provide any proof to his great reflex in fighting i would like to see it
when people talk about thor in h2h they always mention he is the same as hercules well let me remind you that spider-man was able to jump around hercules without getting touched and beat him until he broke his arm and hercules grabs him but the point is that spider-man is on a whole different level of speed refles and agility, hell he got his spider-sense to warn him of any coming danger which means he will outomaticly avoid all the hits thor will try to land on him and it wont take too long before he knocks thor out with class 100 and his speed
also let me point out that one of the most important things in punching power is speed right? when you put speed in your punch its even harder so someone who is as fast as spider-man with class 100 strength will punch harder then the ordenery class 100 so with all those things thor will never be able to beat spider-man hand 2 hand if spider-man had class 100 strength
Again with the MA > Spider-man? You know in comicbooks the difference between skilled ma fighters and ordinary fighters with a lot of fighting experience but little ma training is about as big as the difference between peak human strength and low superhuman strength. Spider-man's skilled enough to fight Ironfist and even use his own moves against him, isnt that enough to say he''s a pretty good fighter? And a well written Spider-man can dance around Thor a whole day without getting tagged.
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people always forget a simple thing that no matter how skilled the fighter is he is always got speed limitation, lets say captain america no matter how skilled he is he is just apeak human in tearms of speed and peak human is the limit of his speed now spider-man is levels and levels faster then him which will be like you fighting bruce lee only you see bruce lee moves in a very very slow motion you will be able to dance around his fist 50 times and then counter it
Am I the only one who cares to point out that nowhere in the OP does it state that this Spidey has flight or comparable durability? Thor one-shots him with Mjolnir.
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please show me where and when did thor ever show this "godly speed and ftl reflex you are reffering to" in a h2h fight because other then flight in fighting i never see him using anything like that he is on par with hercules when it comes to speed and reflex, super human strength and durability doesnt mean you are also super fast with light speed reflex just ask colossus , juggernaut, the thing and many others
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so basically i asked you to prove he got super speed and reflex in combat and all you can provide is a single scan of thor getting punched by captain america which only proves my point that in a fight he is not that fast at all, and what else does this scan shows us? thor using mjolnir to do what? crack the floor? listen i really dont want to flame or bash thor he is a great character but people like you make other people hate the character seriously there is no doubt that thor is powerfull and will destroy spider-man in a fight but this is freakin h2h fight we are talking about and why cant you admit the facts that in reflex and speed and combat speed thor is not at spider-man level, he never did anything to put him at the speed of spider-man thats why we go by his standard feats which are going toe 2 toe with hercules and hulk , those 2 were speedblitzed by spider-man without any effort
face it if spider-man had class 100 strength and he fought thor h2h he would destroy thor without much trouble since he is faster, got better reflex, more agile, spider-sense and there is nothing you can prove here because its a fact
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