Darkseid gets hit by everyone. DD hit him, Superman hits him, Mary Marvel hits him, Spectre oneshotted him, etc. The omega effect has failed against DD who is just a brick whereas Void has resisted the MM's best efforts in killing him.
No wwhen you add these two together you get Void easily resisting Seid's beams as they have failed against someone less than Void and never taken anyone out greater than the Void.
Were there really provable on-panel instances where the OE/OB or OS were resisted before?
Also, if these are "autowin" abilities like the DS propoenents state, why doesn't DS use them to beat DD and SM during the times he got pounded by them?
He's tried it on DD and it failed. A writer stated Superman wouldn't die from it and I for one don't think it would take him out, and besides the point MM's powers far outclass Ds's and he failed to defeat the Void.
When a more powerful being does not use the full extent of their abilities it is assumed it is PIS or CIS to further the story. If said powers have defeated similiar foes or even more powerful foes before and after the encounters in question, then that would fall under stupidity. For example, The Omegas have defeated or held Superman, Orion, and The more powerful Infinity Man several times before but deflected by Heat vision in one story. Obviously the writer didn't know what they were doing. Doomsday was defeated by the Omegas as he was put down for the count. Darkseid even had time to give a speech. Doomsday's powers are adapting. I wager he simply adapted beyond the pure force Darksied used. Bad thinking on DS part. He could have devolved him or sent him to another time period. He chose to use force instead to prove a point.
It was one instance out of many battles. I simply looked at the entire history of fights and summized that it does not fit. Anyway, Final Crisis said that they body hopped anyway.
From everything I"ve read, Darksied has toyed with Superman and doesn't have stalemates or losses against Superman. How can that be possible when DS one shotted Supergirl when she was angel(more powerful than Superman), Put down Doomsday(More powerful than an ampes Superman), Beaten Orion(Equal to Superman), Beaten Infinity Man(More powerful than Superman, etc. Seems Superman is the exception to the rule and not the rule.
You must have missed quite a few Superman/Darkseid fights then. What does oneshotting Supergirl have to do with Superman? Orion matches up better against Superman than Seid does and it's abc logic as well since we have actual fights between these two characters.
I"m using direct comparisons. Darksied beats Orion and Infinity Man. Both of whom are equal to or Superior to Superman. Thus Superman is the exception to the rule, not the rule.
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