He isn't.
They have released this preview in nearly every comic which came out this week as well as many sites. I doubt its nothing or an amped superman. Its like a statement from DC to marvel fanboys "Hey suckers, superman is still the boss".
Iron Man has been a factor to the likes of Silver Surfer, Thor, Sentry, and Hulk in armors less formidable than his newest suit. He can't beat Superman on his own power and he's not nearly as big a deal as Thor is, but to pretend he's entirely inconsequential here is to basically ignore what Tony has done on panel more than once.
Mhmm Mhmm Mhmm Mhmm. Iron Man has speed, strength, reflexes, healing factor from nanobots. He can absorb energy attacks. Control technology thanks to extremis. His Bleeding edge suit is really sick.
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Surfer is a pussy, thor beats the shit out of tony in a few hits, hulk has treated Iron man as a joke several times, sentry oneshotted him, namor beats the phuck outta him in combat, Quicksilver has owned him with his bare hands etc. DCnU superman at this time would basically ignore Iron man.
So ignoring all the times where Iron Man has been a factor to those I listed even recently or straight up lowballing Tony? Gotcha.
Anyway, Tony has the feats to be a factor to Superman, especially with Bleeding Edge armor that stood up to the likes of HE amped Ulik and Crimson Dynamo as well as Thor himself.
So the idea he's not a factor here at all against DCnU Superman is pretty much baseless.
surfer would wreck supes. Iron man admitted on panel he has always held back when fighting hulk. And everybody you mentioned could hold there own against supes (maybe not QS) if not win
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He's been a factor less times than when he's not. There is a reason he's at high meta-low herald level and the likes of superman and thor at HH. Most of those fights where tony was a factor against top guns have context behind them. Ulik is a joke now, thor oneshot killed him and CD was always a joke. Its the same comic where diablo oneshotted thor using his own lightning.
In surfer's dreams perhaps. Let me know when he can beat thor or cyborg superman, two proven inferiors of superman. That has no meaning, hulk admitted he ALWAYS holds back. Does that means his entire history is retconned? Nope.
High Meta's/Low Heralds generally are factors on some level to High Heralds. Iron Man is arguably around the highest you can be at the High Meta range, veering into Low Herald territory.
Ulik and CD were both amped by the High Evolutionary, so there's your context. Diablo is a master transmutation artist, as evidenced by how he jacked the Destroyer Armor. Him taking out Thor with his own lightning doesn't detract from Iron Man's formidability, though.
But, if you want to lowball and discredit Tony's feats to completely justify him not being a factor to Superman at all, that's your prerogative. End of the day, though, Iron Man, with less powerful and formidable armor, has been a factor to beings such in Superman's general weight class and more than once to justify it not just being random outliers.
Can't really argue with that. Or well, no one should be able to.
No, they don't. Being amped to Iron man's strength level isn't anything to feel proud about. Diablo being an alchemist or rocket scientist means jackshit about thor being oneshotted with his own lightning, it means the writer had a lower opinion about thor's formidability. If we're using high showings of IM and low showings of SM, maybe. Otherwise a being capable of bench pressing the planet for 5 days is so above tony, its not even funny.
Yes, they do. They don't win and they're overpowered, but they're factors, especially when fighting alongside a High Herald on their side.
Or the writer felt Diablo was a very high potential threat? As evidenced by what he did with the Destroyer Armor. And that's not even the first time Diablo has done impressive transmutation before.
The lengths you're going here to literally ignore or attempt to downplay all of Tony's showings - from the past and fairly recently - suggesting he'd be a factor to Superman while teaming up with Thor is astounding. I mean, shit, I'm not even saying he'd win a single fight against Superman, but to act like he's not even a factor to the guy?
It doesn't even begin to make sense.
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I don't think surfer dreams, so it must be real. Since when is Thor PROVEN to he supes inferior? Yeah, it does matter, because events would've happen differently if they weren't holding back.
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Agree to disagree bud.
He does dream, this is one of those. Superman beats the phuck out of him in reality. Read thor and superman comics to find out. One sentence doesn't retcons entire history of iron man and hulk. Try something else.
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