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Originally posted by Pillow Biter
If you reversed Surfer with the Hulk in the order, then I'd say that on the whole Superman clears until MAYBE Hulk.

Superman vs. Hulk is nearly impossible to call as both, particularly the Hulk, have very dynamic power levels. I would probably give the Hulk an edge if Superman is significantly exhausted and/or damaged before coming to a fight with him.

Strange, as most mages are, also has very variable power levels. Combine this with him often being a glass cannon, and you get a fight that would be tough to predict even without the very unpredictable magic weakness. Still, I'd typically give Strange an edge over Superman in a fair fight, given the magic weakness. Throw in Superman being at all damaged or exhausted and the edge gets bigger.

At any rate, I'd probably say that on the whole and according to your gauntlet order, Superman likely stops at the Hulk or Surfer. The fights prior to the Hulk wouldn't take much out of him, and as wildly unpredictable as a Hulk vs. Superman fight is, I'm still inclined to give him the edge. But at that point he's likely too worn down to beat Surfer, even though I would typically give Supes the edge over Surfer.

^^^Nice!

Thanks for that, PB.


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Its hypnotic, isnt it?


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Clears it or stops at Dr. Strange.

For Superman, he doesn't really need much time to rest. As long as there is a sun, he will have enough time to "re-charge"

Hellcat, Nighthawk, Valkyrie, and Namor aren't doing anything. At best, they are just a nuisance. They aren't a threat. They can all jump at once and they would still lose.


Hulk is tough but like any brick, easy to BFR. Superman has a consistent track record of doing that against any brick that doesn't fly; most notable Doomsday. Just using "current" superman, he has tried to BFR plenty of opponents; Doomsday and Rogal are the ones that come to mind. I don't think Hulk is a problem against anyone that will try to do that. If Superman were to try a slugfest, maybe he could get tough.

DR strange is the wild card. Depends on how bad the Hulk vs Superman match goes. If he is recovering from a hit as he BFR'ed/defeated hulk, Dr.strange (and even SS) have a high chance of winning.


If Superman isn't recovering from a hit, Superman should be the remaining people of this.


7/10 for Superman.


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Stops at Hulk or Strange.

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Clears it or stops at Dr. Strange


Superman is going to clear....Hulk, Surfer, and Dr. Strange in rapid succession (Or maybe stops at Dr. Strange?).....

*Sigh*


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Stops at Hulk or Strange.



Superman is going to clear....Hulk, Surfer, and Dr. Strange in rapid succession (Or maybe stops at Dr. Strange?).....

*Sigh*

This isn't a comic story where some writers love to downplay recovery time


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Shocked Superman runs the Avengers 1 million BC Gauntlet

.3 picoseconds rest between matches. All take place in Metropolis.
In order:

Black Panther
Ghost Rider
Agamotto
Starbrand
Phoenix
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Depends on how powerful that Ghost Rider is. Jason Aaron treats the entity as incredibly powerful (See: Uncanny Avengers and current Avenger comics) so I'd guess Superman stops there if the demon is unleashed.

If not, he stops at Agamotto. One of the Vishanti is way too much imo. The Starbrand is incredibly powerful, but I dk if a caveman would be that much of a threat even with that power. I'd put him below Agamotto.


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Tough one. I try and be fair and balanced when it comes to Superman.

And in fairness, the odds of Superman clearing this gauntlet of tech wizards, magic users, and galaxy busters easily are less then 100%. wink


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Thane destroys him.


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Your acting as if Gladitor at his best can hold a candle to Kal at his average?


You're acting as if Gladiator is a light weight. Wish I knew where all of these opinions stemmed from? Unless you're suggesting that Superman would one shot Gladiator? I agree that he'd win, but let's be real, Superman would have to fight for while to get the win.


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Based on what? One P5 member with 1/5th the power of Thane was able to thoroughly thrash Gladiator.


No. Glads was beaten by a team, actually. You're thinking of Thor, he got trashed.

Anyway, riv doesn't mention the Phoenix Force in the OP.


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No. Glads was beaten by a team, actually. You're thinking of Thor, he got trashed.

Anyway, riv doesn't mention the Phoenix Force in the OP.


Thanks for the correction. My point was that if one member was capable of beating a High Herald with ease, and Thane possessed much more than 1/5th of that power, where does that leave us?

How did that ever translate into Thane being a weakling? Before someone jumps in to say that Thane was hardly a Jean Grey duplicate, let's not forget that most members of the P5 were brawler types like Namor for example, and Scott never used TK/TP before in his life, look at Piotr as well.


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Writers love to downplay, posters like to downplay. Its all good.


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Superman Vs Skeletor and Mumm-Ra

Current Superman. DC versions of the villains.


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Superman (armored) Vs Lex Luthor (armored)

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Pictured versions.
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No BFR.

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The old Superman armor. Been years since reading Krisis of the Krimson Kryptonite! Memory may be a bit rusty, but as I recall:



You know what, forget the made up fish story where he beats Spectre and Anti-monitor. I want to see if Abhi can talk this one up... The armor was just... not super.

I mean, the only reason that second rate mad scientist pc reject didn't outright kill him with a rocket, is because explosive bolts destroyed the shite first.. No idea why that would stop him from being exploded, but that's what happened.


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So from the Injustice/MOTU/Thundercats crossover, or the DCU/MOTU one?n They're different canons. I know we go with most recent, but frankly, the recent one is kind of a joke by comparison..


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Clark can't win this one.

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Is that considred not good?


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Thane traps Superman in the hand of death for the win and yes, he did this to Thanos without an amp...

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No speed feats for Thane? evil face


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