The Official BLEACH series Thread

Started by NemeBro524 pages

Originally posted by dadudemon
You're welcome. This message board shit gets confusing and it's hard to keep track of who said what and what for. I got the idea from Bardock42.

Yes, to all of the above.

His weapon thingie would explode and blow up The Quincy with it.

Seagreen actually answered that for you...almost.

He does not store the Spirit particles in his weapon.

Also, why did he stop absorbing them when he materialised the full wing? Clearly he possesses a limit.

Originally posted by EvilAngel
Basically, a zanpactu called Muramasa is freeing the Zanpactu from shinigami control. Materialising them in the real world. Thus causing all shinigami to loose the ability to use their swords powers.

Early on in the confusion and chaos Byakuya is attacked by Senbon zakura, and presumed dead. However when he turns up again he's on the zanpactou side, surprising everyone.

Ichigo loses Zangetsu, but in doing so Muramasa free's Shirosaki. Who takes over Ichigo body and thoroughly kicks the crap out of Zangetsu. Eventually Ichigo breaks out of it. Muramasa enters Ichigo's soul and forces inner Shirosaki into a fight. Who proceeds to own him again until Muramasa uses his zanpaktou's power of tentacle rape (you have no idea how much i'm not kidding). Ichigo saves Shirosaki and forces Muramasa out of his soul.

In which time Zangetsu is all better now and Ichigo and him fight, But Ichigo wins. Revealing if you kill your zanpactou you get it's powers back. If someone else kills it, apparently you loose them forever. But since Byakuya killed Rukia's on a dare(again, not kidding) i'm guessing this'll be disproved.

There's allot of fighting inbetween with Renji and Hisage(the guy with 69 on his face) aswell as a few other things, then Kenpachi turns up, and scares all of the Zanpaktou. He blasts them all away so he could solo fight Byakuya

That pretty much sums it up until now.

So when i say Wabiske hits Kenny i mean Wabiske.

i am actually loving this arc, by far the most entertaining filler imo...

Kazeshini is such a badass while Haineko is lame...

Originally posted by NemeBro
Also, why did he stop absorbing them when he materialised the full wing? Clearly he possesses a limit.

AHA!

Originally posted by NemeBro
He does not store the Spirit particles in his weapon.

Also, why did he stop absorbing them when he materialised the full wing? Clearly he possesses a limit.

Because he stopped absorbing energy at some point means he has a limit?

Or are you saying it automatically absorbs energy until it is at maximum capacity?

Because after he "reached his limit" he fired off arrows - releasing said energy. So how come more energy didn't get sucked into his wing/quiver after that?

Originally posted by Quincy
Because he stopped absorbing energy at some point means he has a limit?

Or are you saying it automatically absorbs energy until it is at maximum capacity?

Because after he "reached his limit" he fired off arrows - releasing said energy. So how come more energy didn't get sucked into his wing/quiver after that?

You clearly don't get how this debating thing works.

Burden of proof dictates it is you who must prove it is without limit, otherwise you are committing a No-Limits fallacy.

Originally posted by NemeBro
You clearly don't get how this debating thing works.

Burden of proof dictates it is you who must prove it is without limit, otherwise you are committing a No-Limits fallacy.

Hold on a tick.

I'm not saying Ishida's final form has an unlimited supply of energy.

What I AM saying is that neither he, nor his weapons, would "EXPLODE OVERLOAD" ya dig?

Cant prove there isn't a limit. Can't prove there is a limit. We can assume either way, make our own judgements.

But its weird you know - Ishida fights with spirit particles in the air. Does the air ever run out of spirit particles?

Then again, if Ishida were to constantly fire off his arrows (which he is capable of doing) while his final form was breaking down spirit energy, that'd pretty much be like pouring water into a bottomless glass.

he should be more powerful in soul society and hueco mundo because everything is made of spirit particles(in soul society anyway, can't remember if the same is true for hueco mundo)

Originally posted by NemeBro
You clearly don't get how this debating thing works.

Burden of proof dictates it is you who must prove it is without limit, otherwise you are committing a No-Limits fallacy.

Originally posted by Quincy
Hold on a tick.

I'm not saying Ishida's final form has an unlimited supply of energy.

What I AM saying is that neither he, nor his weapons, would "EXPLODE OVERLOAD" ya dig?

Cant prove there isn't a limit. Can't prove there is a limit. We can assume either way, make our own judgements.

But its weird you know - Ishida fights with spirit particles in the air. Does the air ever run out of spirit particles?

Then again, if Ishida were to constantly fire off his arrows (which he is capable of doing) while his final form was breaking down spirit energy, that'd pretty much be like pouring water into a bottomless glass.

The point was whether his wings had a limit to how much energy they could store, or rather, how much energy he could store. He'll never run out of energy as long as there are spirit particles around (air, solids, wherever), or until he tires out.

Where he can store said energy has a limit though. Even if he condenses* the reiryoku on his wing(s) immensely, he'll still have a limit. There's only so much energy he can focus on storing.

*I'm not making up the condensation of reiryoku. We already have reiryoku in liquid form (silver tubes).

However, having a limit, and hitting a limit are two completely different things, and you know pointed out the latter with your bottomless glass analogy.

Originally posted by stickman618
he should be more powerful in soul society and hueco mundo because everything is made of spirit particles(in soul society anyway, can't remember if the same is true for hueco mundo)

Hueco Mundo has a greater concentration of Reishi in the air than Soul Society does, if I remember correctly. So base form Uryu would have more energy to use in HM than he would in SS. Though Final Form Uryu can use Reishi from the buildings, and the air. So it's possible that FF Uryu would be equally powerful in HM and SS, or more powerful in SS if Las Noches isn't made of Reishi.

how do we evaluate kenpachi now when it comes to strength i mean we all knew he was strong but dammmmmm.

with the eye patch off he draws with shikai Ichigo

then he can hold his own against an espada

using two hands he kills the espada

and now he can easily slice through number 0

sounds f***ed up if you ask me

Originally posted by stickman618
with the eye patch off he draws with shikai Ichigo

then he can hold his own against an espada

using two hands he kills the espada

and now he can easily slice through number 0

sounds f***ed up if you ask me

Shhh. Talk like that will piss members off here. They think Ichigo beating Kenpachi was the PIS, not the ever increasingly powerful Kenpachi.

Damn Yammy was a bigger letdown than Shrek 3

I'm Tite finally acknowledged that Ichigo should be stronger than a Captain. I'm not a fan of the guy, but he was around that level at the end of the soul society arc. On the other hand, Yammy is an incredible disappointment.

Is it just me, or does Ichigo look like a child and extremely thin in the bottom left panel?

~ Unohana sure is scary. Now I can understand why Kyoraku and Jushiro are afraid of her.

Ichigo is a little child.

I was hoping for a break from all the constant fights. Start throwing down some more story soon.

I'm pretty sure Kubo will throw down some more of the story soon. wonder how Aizen is going to deal with Ichigo when they fight.

Well, Yammy just moved into the realm of truely pathetic.

Originally posted by dadudemon
Shhh. Talk like that will piss members off here. They think Ichigo beating Kenpachi was the PIS, not the ever increasingly powerful Kenpachi.
We have one showing that has Kenny against a relatively weak opponent.

We have a few of him against considerable stronger opponents.

So, we count the one feat as the valid one, and discount all the others? Lol.

Edit: Also, it looks like Yammy has a pretty impressive Cero. That's something at least...