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Sith Lords vs. Jedi Masters
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Gryn Jabar
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There was no regime in ROTS times. And who should have started a civil war ? And why ? [/B][/QUOTE]
I'l do this more in the morning but Mas Amedda for one, as well as planetary governers (Onderon for one).
2) The "rebellion" as we know it started with the Ghorman Massacre, which convinced Mon Montha & co of the eeeevilness of the Empire.

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Yoda could have killed Sidious and he could have stopped the creation of the Empire [/B]

The senate had already made the republic into the empire by that point. Someone else would have seized power anyway (mentioned before).

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-Cough- Sidious knocked Yoda's lightsaber away out of skill. Sidious jumped on to a Senate pod, and Yoda followed. Yoda ignited his blade and moved in for the kill. Sidious shot lightning from his hand - notice it didn't hit Yoda anywhere else - and knocked the saber away.

Sidious did it with intent to disarm Yoda.


I told you once and I will tell you again: There is no way to aim on a weapon with lightning. Get it. He was aiming at Yoda and Yoda dropped (!) the lightsaber to deflect the lightning so Sidious was L U C K Y !


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No. The lightning blast damaged the lightsaber. There were blue sparks all around it. I'm telling you, the blast knocked it from his hand. Can you provide me with a screenshot that says otherwise? Concrete proof would be beneficial. Forgive me if I don't take your word on it, Nai. You also said Yoda was attempting to protect his eyes from Sidious's Force lightning - which really didn't make any sense at all - so...um...if you do provide a screenie, I'll consent. But not one moment until then.

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Janus watch the fight again. Sidious FLed the LS away, Darth Somebody is right, it blew right out of his hand. Also, Yoda got propelled downward, whereas it looks like Sidious got thrown, though not nearly with the same amount of power. Even if Yoda managed to get up, he couldn't have won.


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Well, Yoda by no means dropped the weapon. It was blasted out of his hand. And I'm inclined to go with DS and Jabar here on the fact that Sidious knocked away Yoda's saber. If you watch closely, as soon as Yoda lands, saber in the right hand, Sidious left hand shoots the bolt of lighting that decides the duel. The blast hits Yoda's saber, knocking it away, and also throwing Yoda off balance. He begins blocking it the moment it touches him, but it shakes his hold nonetheless. A second later, Sidious shoots a bolt out of his right hand; Yoda blocks with his left. This is where the little engagement of power begins, but that's going too far.

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Well, Yoda by no means dropped the weapon. It was blasted out of his hand. And I'm inclined to go with DS and Jabar here on the fact that Sidious knocked away Yoda's saber. If you watch closely, as soon as Yoda lands, saber in the right hand, Sidious left hand shoots the bolt of lighting that decides the duel. The blast hits Yoda's saber, knocking it away, and also throwing Yoda off balance. He begins blocking it the moment it touches him, but it shakes his hold nonetheless. A second later, Sidious shoots a bolt out of his right hand; Yoda blocks with his left. This is where the little engagement of power begins, but that's going too far.


Ha! Yoda DID drop the weapon. I've watched it yet again! He drops it to block the wave of Sith lightning, which requires both of his hands. And as if that wasn't enough for the prowess of Yoda, he completely reverses the wave of lightning backwards at Sidious, creating a shockwave that sent both sprawling. The difference being that Sidious was able to grab a rail while Yoda had no such thing on his side.

I did watch closely, my friend. And Yoda clearly dropped it so he could block the lightning. I think what's really unique is that no one mentions HOW Sidious got the high ground. Or even HOW he lost his lightsaber, since neither were shown. We go from one scene where they are duking it out to Yoda dropping down to a lower pod and Sidious, saberless for the rest of the fight, throwing pods at him.

Anyone want to offer theories at this point?

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Janus watch the fight again. Sidious FLed the LS away, Darth Somebody is right, it blew right out of his hand. Also, Yoda got propelled downward, whereas it looks like Sidious got thrown, though not nearly with the same amount of power. Even if Yoda managed to get up, he couldn't have won.

I refuse to believe that


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Then don't, and don't waste bandwith by saying so.
Janus: Sorry mate, but that's not what happened. Turn to 2:53:36.18 if you have the movie DLed. He raised it to strike, then Sidious blew it away. THEN Yoda made the shockwave.


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True. But this fight Yoda won't have to worry about the pods being thrown at him in the first place.


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i say yoda because he is much more connected to the force in everything he does sids is only connected to himself hes also a coward how he ran and he hid from yoda behind pods see yoda is fierce and brave sids is just a little coward, and yoda take the fight in an open space


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Sidious is arrogant. He is a coward.

But Yoda and Sidious are roughly equal. Yoda would NEVER own Sidious. EVER. And Sidious IS powerful. The most powerful Sith in PT.

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