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For the life of me I can't even imagine how people who think Thor would win picture this fighting playing out in their head... seriously is Wolverine sleeping or something?


Hitting him?


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Pretty much.

Thor isn't an idiot, he isn't going to wade into melee combat against someone who could potentially one shot him to get turned into a pin cushion. He isn't the Hulk he can't afford to let himself get hit so he can land blow of his own, he isn't going to get into a shot for shot slugfest with Wolverine.

Have none of you people seen a fight before? People don't even want to get hit by guys wearing padding gloves. Most fights are two people circling each other throwing jabs to try and make an opening in their opponents guard... now image one of those guys had a katar on each hand was actively trying to kill the other one. For the life of me I can't even imagine how people who think Thor would win picture this fighting playing out in their head... seriously is Wolverine sleeping or something?

Thor is going to be on the defensive the entire time. His primarily concern will be avoiding Wolverine's claws, koing Wolverine will be a distant secondary concern. Wolverine on the other hand could give a f@ck about getting hit. He is going to be on the offensive and he is a faster, smaller target, with a reach advantage, weaponry and a sizable skill advantage. It's a no brainer.


Know imagine that katar was made out of plastic...

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Know imagine that katar was made out of plastic...


Don't kid your self. Wolverine's has straight on, 12 inches of penetration (sounds dirty), stabbed Thing with minimal effort. He's carved up Wreaker, Namor, WWH and Count Nefaria. Even his glancing blows effected Thor. If Wolverine connects with the Odin Son, he is going to have a bad day.


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Don't kid your self. Wolverine's has straight on, 12 inches of penetration (sounds dirty), stabbed Thing with minimal effort. He's carved up Wreaker, Namor, WWH and Count Nefaria. Even his glancing blows effected Thor. If Wolverine connects with the Odin Son, he is going to have a bad day.

He tried to remove part of thors face but barely drew blood

The only time wolverine's claws are even marginally effective against the big boys are when he stabs

and even then it is pretty meh...

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He tried to remove part of thors face but barely drew blood

The only time wolverine's claws are even marginally effective against the big boys are when he stabs

and even then it is pretty meh...


He only landed a glancing blow, what did you expect... a decapitation? Wolverine is limited by the medium and the fact that Thor needed to stay alive and come out of it without an major disfigurement. In a forum match Wolverine carves up Thor like a Christmas goose.


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He only landed a glancing blow, what did you expect... a decapitation? Wolverine is limited by the medium and the fact that Thor needed to stay alive and come out of it without an major disfigurement. In a forum match Wolverine carves up Thor like a Christmas goose.

Except not?

Thor is limited by the fact if he kills wolverine he is the guy that killed wolverine

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He only landed a glancing blow, what did you expect... a decapitation? Wolverine is limited by the medium and the fact that Thor needed to stay alive and come out of it without an major disfigurement. In a forum match Wolverine carves up Thor like a Christmas goose.


So, because Logan didn't cause much damage beyond the superficial kind when he connected in this very same comic you're citing from, he can likewise do much more damage in a forum setting? That doesn't make any sense at all. When directly paired against Thor, his blows were only doing damage because it was stacking on top of his other attacks. Thor even states the damage dealt isn't serious at first because of his skin, but that will change in time. I don't understand how you can leave that much out and claim Logan's damage output will be far greater than what he showed on panel unless you really really want him to win here, which is obvious you do.


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So, because Logan didn't cause much damage beyond the superficial kind when he connected in this very same comic you're citing from, he can likewise do much more damage in a forum setting? That doesn't make any sense at all. When directly paired against Thor, his blows were only doing damage because it was stacking on top of his other attacks. Thor even states the damage dealt isn't serious at first because of his skin, but that will change in time. I don't understand how you can leave that much out and claim Logan's damage output will be far greater than what he showed on panel unless you really really want him to win here, which is obvious you do.


Wolverine wasn't stacking damange, aside from the initial face scratch, he landed one strike across Thor's shoulder and one across the left side of his stomach. The one across Thor's stomaching having the most effect. Thor's skin helped him with some glancing blows, awesome, but Wolverine never landed a direct hit on Thor in the entirety of that fight. I don't see how Thor being injured by glancing blows is suddenly indication that he can now shrug of a direct hit. We've seen what a direct shot from Wolverine's claw's can do to people with Thor level durability and even greater durability. Wolverine will carve up Thor just like he's done Hulk. Just like he's done Thing. Just like he's done Wreaker. Just like he's done Count Nefarai.


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Now that I think about it Bone claw Daken did run Pluto through with his claws, maybe he could get at least some partial penetration on Thor even without the Muramasa claws.


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by that logic spiderman is an ultra god roll eyes (sarcastic)


laughing out loud

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daken is pretty much a non-factor in this fight, there's no way he can harm thor.


Honestly? I wouldn't be surprised if his bone claws cut Thor. I wouldn't be surprised at all.

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um muramasa...nuff said.


Oh, so he does have the muramasa claws here? Duo for the stomp then.

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Wolverine cut them out and buried them.


So that's how he lost them... (please log in to view the image)

Thanks for the spoiler

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no longer has them, he gets one-shotted.


Riiiiiight... you realize Bor failed to do that?

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He hasn't impaled Thor.


Actually it looked like he did, at least to me.


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It came out two weeks ago, you should have read it by now. embarrasment


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Wolverine wasn't stacking damange, aside from the initial face scratch, he landed one strike across Thor's shoulder and one across the left side of his stomach. The one across Thor's stomaching having the most effect. Thor's skin helped him with some glancing blows, awesome, but Wolverine never landed a direct hit on Thor in the entirety of that fight. I don't see how Thor being injured by glancing blows is suddenly indication that he can now shrug of a direct hit. We've seen what a direct shot from Wolverine's claw's can do to people with Thor level durability and even greater durability. Wolverine will carve up Thor just like he's done Hulk. Just like he's done Thing. Just like he's done Wreaker. Just like he's done Count Nefarai.
What's your definition of a glancing blow?

Because those were full bore slashes from what I saw.


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What's your definition of a glancing blow?

Because those were full bore slashes from what I saw.


huh

A blow that only glances - aka barely connects with - the target?


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huh

A blow that only glances - aka barely connects with - the target?

This is a glancing blow?
http://img246.imageshack.us/img246/5997/43294170.jpg

Just because he's not tearing Thor in half, doesn't mean we have to discredit it to barely hitting him. erm


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This is a glancing blow?
http://img246.imageshack.us/img246/5997/43294170.jpg

Just because he's not tearing Thor in half, doesn't mean we have to discredit it to barely hitting him. erm


Yes that's a glancing blow.

No, we do that because we've seen what non-glancing blows have from Wolverine have done to opponents of Thor level durability in the past, which leaves us with Thor only barely getting touched by Wolverine's claws as the only possible solution.


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This is a glancing blow?
http://img246.imageshack.us/img246/5997/43294170.jpg

Just because he's not tearing Thor in half, doesn't mean we have to discredit it to barely hitting him. erm


That's exactly what's going on. He slashed at "Sabes" for all he worth, and it left three thin slashes across Thor's face. Thor even reaffirms this fact later in the story. His skin is tough enough to endure multiple slashes of Logan without venturing into serious harm. But in a forum fight his claws deal more damage? Or is Thor's skin not as tough?

It's ignoring the events in the comic and picking and choosing which are acceptable to be used in a forum. "Glancing blow", my ass. It was a full on swipe.


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It came out two weeks ago, you should have read it by now. embarrasment


I know... been busy sad



Funny no one cares that Logan was under the spell and thus wasn't operating at 100%.


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That's exactly what's going on. He slashed at "Sabes" for all he worth, and it left three thin slashes across Thor's face. Thor even reaffirms this fact later in the story. His skin is tough enough to endure multiple slashes of Logan without venturing into serious harm. But in a forum fight his claws deal more damage? Or is Thor's skin not as tough?

It's ignoring the events in the comic and picking and choosing which are acceptable to be used in a comic. "Glancing blow", my ass. It was a full on swipe.


Because the act of him "full on swiping" obviously means it must of been a direct hit!!!!


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Yes that's a glancing blow.

No, we do that because we've seen what non-glancing blows have from Wolverine have done to opponents of Thor level durability in the past, which leaves us with Thor only barely getting touched by Wolverine's claws as the only possible solution.
Ya no, sorry. Like hell that's a glancing blow. Thor was standing still and Wolverine had a full swing at his face, and connected.

Right, so ignore the on-panel evidence of what Thor is able to do because 'others' have fallen prey? Others with different durability to different objects than Thor?
**** this shit, Thor has tagged Silver Surfer, and Quicksilver. Wolverine never hits him, and Thor never misses.


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Because the act of him "full on swiping" obviously means it must of been a direct hit!!!!


It's obvious he slashed Thor with the intent to deal as much damage to "Creed" as possible prior to escaping. You're trying to twist what was actually shown into something it wasn't. In said comic, Logan's claws weren't dealing much damage to Thor's skin. They were connecting, sure, but outside of minor superficial damage, not much was done. I don't see what's hard to get here. It was a direct hit. But you don't like it because Thor wasn't filleted or greviously harmed because of it.


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