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As i thought, he has none. Also ganymede flight belt allows her to move at warp speeds. Surfer really didnt want to hit her at all so he only interrupted her blitz when he wanted. Hence he said he had had enough.
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And your point? Superman has flown faster than warp speeds. And His hits are far harder than ganymede's. So the scan didn't do anything to impress me. Maybe if He took that many punches from Thor or Gladiator at that speed, I'd be like woa.
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Man i really shudnt need to explain this. Read carefully,the point of the scan was NOT to show surfers durability which is already an established fact but to show his speed in casually reacting to someone who can move at FTL.
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And we don't know how fast Supes can move in combat either, because pretty much all of his blitzes are unquantified. Supes blitzes at unquantified speeds, Surfer reacted to a blitz of unquantified speed.
And Surfer's searched the surface of entire planets in seconds and chased down electrical signals. None of those are actual combat feats so none of them are accepted by the other side of the argument
Key word, betting. Hence, speculation.
The first blow was a cheap shot, and I can find numerous instances of Supes getting tagged before he starts using his speed.
Unlike his encounter with Ganymede, Surfer won't be trying to reason with Supes and Supes won't be able to get in a cheap shot. Thus, Surfer won't let him get in that many hits before reacting.
No. She wasn't moving FTL. Her belt allows her to FLY that fast. And Surfer had time to react once she'd started in. no different than Batman tagging impulse. Just recognize the pattern.
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Ayayayaya!! I never said she was moving faster than light i said she CAN move faster than light. Whatever speed she was going was unquantifiable just like supes. She was a nuisance to surfer and he stopped her when he wanted to. Hence he said he had had enough. Not to mention that she evn cheapshotted him to get in the first hit.
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He bullrushed Nova (which I never doubted he could do since any being with supper flight speed can) and he only tagged Gany after a fury of attacks connected, obviously her attacks were nothing more then glancing blows to him which is why he was able to easily interrupt her blitz. However as far as unquantified combat speed goes:
Fighting at 4 different regions on earth in the time it takes to finish a conversation and striking so fast he is igniting sonicbooms.
Nothing comes to mind right now, except Gold did make a refernece to him being "faster then the flash"since he attacked and KO'ed the JL in a fairly quick fashion.
Supes HV can damage the molecular structure of opponents, and supes can modify it's intensity to reflect off surfaces as you noted.
Supes has destroyed GL constructs lol, at the speed/striking power he will be hitting how long do you think these forcefields will last...and that is assuming SS will even have the time to construct them in mid fight agaisnt some of Supes speed. Now on a unrelated note, there is something I want to show
Zod constructing a machine that is shrouded in K-nite, not only does Supes have the ability to avoid its beams and even take a direct hit...he has enough power lto bullrush the K-nite shrouded machine.
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I recall one of Fangirl's earlier threads where Lightray and...Takion, I believe, were flying at 8x the speed of light while fighting. She and I said that they must have been fighting at 8x light speed. Everyone else disagreed. Their punches weren't shown as moving at that speed, only their bodies.
Same situation here. He's using his traveling speed while in combat. It doesn't show him attacking in such an ultra fast fashion.
You can clearly see Surfer grab Nova by the throat in the first scan and throw him in the second scan. That's not a bullrush.
The fury only connected because of the cheap shot in the first panel. And it's in no way obvious her shots were "glancing" since Surfer's shaken off hits from Wonder Man(who punches with almost as much force as a shot from Thor's hammer) and a Bannerless Hulk. He's just that damn tough.
What issue is the first scan from?
And blast of light(such as a Legacy's blast from the Nega Bands) moves faster than sound so the second scan doesn't impress me any or in anyway suggest that Surfer couldn't react to a blitz from Supes.
Booster Gold isn't a speedster and has never fought the Flash, his statement means absolutely nothing.
It works through heat(hence the name) and as I already pointed out Surfer's all but immune to heat. In fact he took a fireblast from Korvak that was capable of destroying a planet like it was nothing. Between Surfer's insane durability, his silver coating's tendency to reflect energy, and his capacity to absorb energy, Supes's HV isn't going to be a problem.
Surfer's created Force Fields that held against a blast from WM Thor with the Power Gem and repeated strikes from a Bannerless Hulk. I'm sure they can stand up to quite a few shots from Supes. And since Supes will be at point blank range and solid, he's definitely going to be vulnerable to an omnidirectional blast of red sunlight from Surfer.
And he's raised FF's IN RESPONSE to blast of energy, so yeah I think he'll have time to get one up. And even if he couldn't for some bizarre reason, his confrontation with the Hulk proved that he can erect one WHILE sustaining shots to the head.
That's a nice feat and arguably the best feat to support your case for Supes so far, but like I said before I'm not talking about one blast of k-nite I'm talking about multiple blast of k-nite. What's more, these blast of k-nite are coming from a character who's energy output is sufficient to momentarily match Thanos's(and this is while he's extremely weakened) and create blackholes. So I'm betting Surfer's blast are going to be more effective than some Supervillains "giant robot of the day".
Now then, points that still need to be addressed are...
1. Supes vulnerability to solar energy absorption(the scans didn't work and according to you he lost anyway).
2. Supes vulnerability to Red Sun radiation(still waiting on an issue number because the sun in your scan looked yellow to me).
And since we seem to be derailing a three on three thread as if it's simply a matter of Supes vs Surfer, what say you accept my Battlezone challenge from the Surfer vs Supes thread and settle it once and for all?
Really nice shield feat. Surfer shields the drive techs of an entire population ships from that are in a different location from electro magnetic distortion in the blink of an eye. This is not neccessarilly to show speed but to show surfers skill and precision and range in creating shields( Shield of Red sun energy or Knite around superman is very possible). Heck here the shields arent even visible.
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