This is about the only thing that I could find that might be worth taking a look at. Not to chide or spam or preach, just to consider.
Not contributing to evil on a personal aspect does make sense, but if evil, as a concept generally accepted to be worth standing against, is taking place in a way that you could personally intercede, then it could be said you are contributing to evil, through allowance of evil's influence to spread without opposition.
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And whether that's a thing or not is an entire discussion on its own.
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Ahhh yes, the failed tool of tools: using the old testament laws to show the savagery of "Christianity."
Unfortunately, the "higher law" was Christ's law and what Christianity is based off of. It is based on love, compassion, forgiveness, and kindness. Not the savage OT Laws.
So if you see tool using OT laws to show the savagery of Christians, you'll observe and idiot. On the same token, if you observe a Christian using OT laws to justify hate (such as hating on gays), they are showing their ignorance and savagery.
So then what's the point of the OT from a Christian standpoint? If its barbaric and savage, why is it in your Bible? It's not Christ's "higher law" so why is it included?
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Pretty sure the OT is used to justify Christian beliefs against masturbation and homosexuality. If we're throwing that out in favor of a "higher law", this seems suspect, as just about every denomination of Christianity uses both books.
The sheer amount of blasphemy in just the first page of this thread is shocking, and extremely disheartening...
I had been away from this place for a long time, and came back hoping to find... I don't know... a SHRED of decency when I came back.
I was completely and utterly wrong.
(Romans 2:5) But after thy hardness and impenitent heart treasurest up unto thyself wrath against the day of wrath and revelation of the righteous judgment of God;
You're treasuring up to yourself wrath for when God's judgment is revealed. Please, repent now, while you can, before it's too late!
(James 4:14) Whereas ye know not what shall be on the morrow. For what is your life? It is even a vapour, that appeareth for a little time, and then vanisheth away.
Oh, and:
(Matthew 5:17) Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil.
Those are the words of Jesus. He fulfilled the law for us. He did what we could never do. Fulfill the law to the letter. Live a perfect life. And then He offered Himself as a ransom for us all, as a Lamb without blemish. Our Passover. That is what the Jewish feasts are all about. They are a foreshadowing of our Saviour.
Are we under a better covenant? Yes. However:
(Romans 7:7) What shall we say then? Is the law sin? God forbid. Nay, I had not known sin, but by the law: for I had not known lust, except the law had said, Thou shalt not covet.
What was sin back then is sin now. Sin is still sin. Meaning sodomy is a sin. When we get saved, we are justified in God's sight through the blood of Jesus, the Holy Spirit of God dwells within us, and we are freed from the burden of the law.
That DOES NOT mean we can go around sinning and living like the devil because "we aren't under the law anymore". If you go around doing that, you are not truly saved. If you are saved, you will have conviction of sin. Your conscience will bother you about it. That is part of the process of sanctification. Justification is salvation, and happens the moment you get saved. You are justified in God's sight. Sanctification is the process in which we become more like Christ. Our old sins convict us and we don't want to do them anymore. You will slip up from time to time, but that is why Jesus died for us: we can't save ourselves.
Homosexuals, adulterers, thieves, and etc. that continue in that lifestyle with no conscience or conviction of sin and profess salvation know nothing about salvation. They are preaching a false Jesus and a false gospel.
What it DOES mean is these two things: First is that the ceremonial laws (like the ritual hand washing, the daily sacrifice, no mixed fabric, no unclean animals, quarantine for lepers, etc.) are done away with. Those laws were put into effect by God for health reasons. He wanted His chosen people, Israel, to live longer and have many children (children are a blessing Psalm 127:3). There is wisdom to those laws: for example, the Levitical diet is a good diet to have, but it's not mandatory.
The second is that we are also freed from the PENALTY of the law. This is the most important part of being free from the law means. In the Levitical law, adultery was a death sentence. If you were caught, you were done. Game over. Now, it is still a death sentence (like any other sin: we deserve the lake of fire for our iniquities), but we have the ability to repent and receive forgiveness through Jesus Christ. When you get saved, you are FREE from the penalty that your sin requires.
If you are unsaved, you are treasuring up wrath for yourself. And if you remain unsaved, you will receive the penalty in full at the Great White Throne, being cast into the lake of fire. But you have the opportunity to repent and accept God's forgiveness through Jesus Christ. God has offered a free pass. A free gift. But you need faith. You have to repent. You have to believe God's promise. You have to put your trust in Jesus. He's the only one that can save you.
And btw, homosexuality is forbidden in the New Testament too. Not just by Paul, but by Jude and John, as well.
(Romans 1:26-27) For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature: And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet.
(Jude 1:7) Even as Sodom and Gomorrha, and the cities about them in like manner, giving themselves over to fornication, and going after strange flesh, are set forth for an example, suffering the vengeance of eternal fire.
(Revelation 21:8) But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.
He was Hebrew, and grew up in the law. What, among others, does the law say is abominable?
(Leviticus 20:13) If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them.
Do I hate homosexuals and other sodomites because I believe God's Word? (heterosexuals can be sodomites, too)
(Luke 13:3) I tell you, Nay: but, except ye repent, ye shall all likewise perish.
Nice try, but Bat Dude doesn't give a shit. Submit to his preferences.
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I'm definitely late on this address to ignorant thread starter, but whatevs.
Sure, let us, as "Christians", worry about whether or not people innocently celebrate Halloween, which, by the way, was once a Christian holiday. Let us focus on petty shit such as this.
It's not like there are true Christian deeds that need be done. All of the men, women, and children less fortunate than most who require food, shelter, and clothing, let's just forget about them... just like Jesus asked us to do!
You don't have to put up with his lies, terrorism, addictions, disorders, and oppression.
The thief (satan) comes to steal, and to kill, and to destroy.
John 10:10
10 The thief does not come except to steal, and to kill, and to destroy.
I [Jesus Christ] have come that they [or you] may have life, and that they [or you] may have it [i.e. the abundant life here and now, and eternal life forevermore] more abundantly.
Speak the Blood of Jesus Christ over yourself, over your families, and over your relatives.
Speak the Name of Jesus Christ over your loved ones and friends.
Say,
Lord Jesus, I repent of my sins.
Save me Lord Jesus.
Wash my sins in Your Blood.
Take me to Heaven Lord Jesus.
Lord Jesus, I plead Your Blood over my husband, wife, family, children, son, daughter, nation, job, finances, health, and life (you can personalize this confession how you desire).
satan, I break your power over my husband, wife, family, children, son, daughter, nation, job, finances, health, marriage, and life (you can personalize this confession how you desire).
satan, I declare boldly that I am free from your control, and power forever in Jesus Name.
Thank you Lord Jesus for saving me and everyone that I intercede (or pray) for.
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