KMC Forums

 
  REGISTER HERE TO JOIN IN! - It's easy and it's free!
Already a member? Log-in!
 
 
Home » Star Wars » Star Wars: Literature & Expanded Universe » Star Wars Versus Forum » Count Dooku vs. Darth Sidious


Count Dooku vs. Darth Sidious
Started by: Don Draper

Forum Jump:
Post New Thread    Post A Reply
Pages (2): [1] 2 »   Last Thread   Next Thread
Author
Thread
Don Draper
Old Fashioned

Registered: May 2015
Location: Time-Life Building


 

Count Dooku vs. Darth Sidious

*ROTS era.
*Powers equalized.


Round 1: All-out battle.
Round 2: More of a general question- Who was better at rallying the most people to their cause?

Old Post Jan 18th, 2016 10:41 PM
Click here to Send Don Draper a Private Message Find more posts by Don Draper Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote Quick Quote
EmperorSidious2
Master of Magic

Registered: Feb 2015
Location: Heavens of Mystic The Birth Place


 

By powers equalized you mean Sidious is brought down to Dookus power by this time, so by extension your asking who wins in a saber deul. No matter what if their equal then Dooku can hold his own in the force if powers are equalized. However in a saber contest I still go Sidious against Dooku however the degree to which he wins is smaller than if he were higher up with his power.

Round 2. Dooku is a great politician, and will be rembered. However Sidious was the Sith Lord and rallied Dooku to his cause and he told Dooku who to rally and influence half the time and he worked his way up to Empeor of the Galaxy. So really Sidious wins both rounds.


__________________
Magic is Power

Old Post Jan 18th, 2016 10:46 PM
Click here to Send EmperorSidious2 a Private Message Find more posts by EmperorSidious2 Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote Quick Quote
Don Draper
Old Fashioned

Registered: May 2015
Location: Time-Life Building


 

quote: (post)
Originally posted by EmperorSidious2
By powers equalized you mean Sidious is brought down to Dookus power
Either Sidious is brought down to Count's level, or Count is brought up to Sidious's level. So long as their powers are equal, I don't care how you choose to view it.

Old Post Jan 18th, 2016 10:51 PM
Click here to Send Don Draper a Private Message Find more posts by Don Draper Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote Quick Quote
EmperorSidious2
Master of Magic

Registered: Feb 2015
Location: Heavens of Mystic The Birth Place


 

quote: (post)
Originally posted by Don Draper
Either Sidious is brought down to Count's level, or Count is brought up to Sidious's level. So long as their powers are equal, I don't care how you choose to view it.


Still Sidious. He was able to go toe to toe with Yoda in "disadvantaged" position, able to be the equal to mace Windu, disamred maul, and defeated savage at once. While I understand this Sidious will be on even playing field with Dooku, I'm not sure Dooku could replicate all of these.

It also comes down to creativity with the force and timing. Whoever uses it the best will also have an advantage since neither will be able to overpower the other in sheer force strength.


__________________
Magic is Power

Old Post Jan 18th, 2016 10:55 PM
Click here to Send EmperorSidious2 a Private Message Find more posts by EmperorSidious2 Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote Quick Quote
quanchi112
Disney

Registered: May 2007
Location: Best company on the planet


 

Sidious wins. Dooku is weak.


__________________

Old Post Jan 18th, 2016 10:59 PM
Click here to Send quanchi112 a Private Message Find more posts by quanchi112 Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote Quick Quote
ares834
Senior Member

Registered: Apr 2009
Location: United States


 

1. Dooku.

2. Palpatine.

Old Post Jan 18th, 2016 11:01 PM
Click here to Send ares834 a Private Message Find more posts by ares834 Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote Quick Quote
Galan007
|Quantum Observer|

Registered: Jul 2006
Location: Mars, 1985


 

Round 1:
This is interesting. It would be a very good fight either way, but I think I might be inclined to side with Dooku in the end.

Round 2:
Again, this is an interesting question. Dooku single handedly(for the most part) rallied tens of thousands of systems to his cause, with nothing but his sheer charisma/cunning. That's huge. But then again: Palpatine rallied the entire damned Republic(and Dooku) to his cause, so meh. /shrug


__________________

Old Post Jan 18th, 2016 11:03 PM
Click here to Send Galan007 a Private Message Find more posts by Galan007 Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote Quick Quote
cs_zoltan
Senior Member

Registered: Jul 2015
Location: Hungary


 

Round 1: Sidious. He is marginally more skilled, and far more knowledgable in the dark side even if we equalize their power level.


__________________


"You presume limits to our double standards. There are none." - Vitidiots

Old Post Jan 18th, 2016 11:19 PM
Click here to Send cs_zoltan a Private Message Find more posts by cs_zoltan Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote Quick Quote
JKBart
Restricted

Registered: Aug 2015
Location: Poland

Account Restricted


 

It's actually a pretty interesting thing. If we are to state that their Force connection is completely equalized, it basically means Sidious's power is downgraded to Dooku level, while Dooku doesn't suffer any change.

Besides the fact that subconscious Force connection dictates impossible amount of things one would deem part of the raw lightsaber skill, we also have Dooku fighting at his normal that he's used to, and Sidious suffering a degradation he never had before, to the levels that were far before TPM. His shrinked Force connection would be on the level he never felt for so many years, so it's quite easy to say he would be at a huge disadvantage.

Not to mention that with perfectly equalized stuff attributing to Force connection, all that would remain would be the raw skill and actual experience.

Then again, Palpatine is younger. Dooku's Force amplification serves to diminish the hindrances of his own body, while Palpatine's physical hindrances are lower. The same amount of the Force energy given to the two bodies, one better, one worse - I don't have to say what the outcome is.

But in the end, Dooku - he would fight as his usual, while Palpatine would have to adapt to the lower level he is not used to.

Old Post Jan 19th, 2016 12:49 AM
Click here to Send JKBart a Private Message Find more posts by JKBart Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote Quick Quote
EmperorSidious2
Master of Magic

Registered: Feb 2015
Location: Heavens of Mystic The Birth Place


 

Or like Don Draper said Dooku could be elevated to Sidious level it works better for everyone.


__________________
Magic is Power

Old Post Jan 19th, 2016 12:58 AM
Click here to Send EmperorSidious2 a Private Message Find more posts by EmperorSidious2 Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote Quick Quote
JKBart
Restricted

Registered: Aug 2015
Location: Poland

Account Restricted


 

Yeah, in that case it's Sidious who wins. Dooku would not be used to fighting at that level.


__________________


They are angry because they have been forced to recognize that their hour has arrived; that the time has come to surrender power to Shimrra and the new order."

Old Post Jan 19th, 2016 12:59 AM
Click here to Send JKBart a Private Message Find more posts by JKBart Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote Quick Quote
EmperorSidious2
Master of Magic

Registered: Feb 2015
Location: Heavens of Mystic The Birth Place


 

I don't think that would be an issue honestly. Both of them especially Sidious hold back to a degree. Sidious would most likely not have an issue since really he could fight like that since he holds back.

Dooku would not have any issue fighting on that level. He didn't have a problem fighting Yoda while he was amped IIRC. Beside form Yoda being more skilled of course.


__________________
Magic is Power

Old Post Jan 19th, 2016 01:02 AM
Click here to Send EmperorSidious2 a Private Message Find more posts by EmperorSidious2 Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote Quick Quote
Don Draper
Old Fashioned

Registered: May 2015
Location: Time-Life Building


 

c'mon guys.

I thought this would go without saying, but power equalizing does exactly what it implies: EQUALIZES POWER. Whether Sidious moves down or Count moves up, we are assuming they are fully acclimated to that level of power.


__________________

Old Post Jan 19th, 2016 01:03 AM
Click here to Send Don Draper a Private Message Find more posts by Don Draper Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote Quick Quote
StiltmanFTW
CBvF

Registered: Dec 2008
Location: The Wiltshire Estates


 

quote: (post)
Originally posted by quanchi112
Sidious wins. Dooku is weak.


Maul is weak stick out tongue


__________________

Old Post Jan 19th, 2016 01:13 AM
Click here to Send StiltmanFTW a Private Message Find more posts by StiltmanFTW Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote Quick Quote
quanchi112
Disney

Registered: May 2007
Location: Best company on the planet


 

quote: (post)
Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Maul is weak stick out tongue
Nah, Maul didn't need an a galactic empire to survive. He's like me in the sense he endures.


__________________

Old Post Jan 19th, 2016 02:06 AM
Click here to Send quanchi112 a Private Message Find more posts by quanchi112 Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote Quick Quote
NewGuy01
perpetual

Registered: Jan 2013
Location: USA


 

Endures several ass whoopings.


__________________

Old Post Jan 19th, 2016 02:42 AM
Click here to Send NewGuy01 a Private Message Find more posts by NewGuy01 Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote Quick Quote
quanchi112
Disney

Registered: May 2007
Location: Best company on the planet


 

quote: (post)
Originally posted by NewGuy01
Endures several ass whoopings.
So did Vader. Hell, Vader needs a suit to sustain his life. No one has lost more body wise than that train wreck.


__________________

Old Post Jan 19th, 2016 02:44 AM
Click here to Send quanchi112 a Private Message Find more posts by quanchi112 Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote Quick Quote
Trocity
Undefeated and Undisputed

Registered: May 2012
Location: Champion's Field


 

quote: (post)
Originally posted by NewGuy01
Endures several ass whoopings.


laughing out loud


__________________

Old Post Jan 19th, 2016 03:14 AM
Click here to Send Trocity a Private Message Find more posts by Trocity Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote Quick Quote
quanchi112
Disney

Registered: May 2007
Location: Best company on the planet


 

quote: (post)
Originally posted by Trocity
laughing out loud
?


__________________

Old Post Jan 19th, 2016 03:16 AM
Click here to Send quanchi112 a Private Message Find more posts by quanchi112 Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote Quick Quote
EmperorSidious2
Master of Magic

Registered: Feb 2015
Location: Heavens of Mystic The Birth Place


 

quote: (post)
Originally posted by NewGuy01
Endures several ass whoopings.


So very true.


__________________
Magic is Power

Old Post Jan 19th, 2016 04:56 AM
Click here to Send EmperorSidious2 a Private Message Find more posts by EmperorSidious2 Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote Quick Quote
All times are UTC. The time now is 10:10 PM.
Pages (2): [1] 2 »   Last Thread   Next Thread

Email this Page
Subscribe to this Thread
   Post New Thread  Post A Reply

Forum Jump:
Search by user:
 

Forum Rules:
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts
HTML code is OFF
vB code is ON
Smilies are ON
[IMG] code is ON

Text-only version
 

< Contact Us - KillerMovies.com - Forum Archive - Forum Rules >


© Copyright 2000-2006, KillerMovies.com. All Rights Reserved.
Forum powered by: vBulletin, copyright ©2000-2006, Jelsoft Enterprises Limited.