May stop somewhere between 3-5.I think bariss stronger than kanan,so if luminara is able to hold her own against depa for a while i can see team 3 winning
I'm sure an case can be made for Depa defeating the Grand Inquisitor, but I'd argue the Seventh Sister has demonstrated superiority over Kanan in The Future of the Force so in that respect it could go either way.
The only thing the Seventh Sister did to Kanan was kick him once - it isn't much of a demonstration of superiority I don't think (and even if it was the gap between the S.S. and Kanan should be pretty small). The Grand Inquisitor on the other hand has no chance against Depa.
Twice actually, the second time knocked him out. She also has him on the back foot for longer in their lightsaber duel. Then there's the fact that the Fifth Brother was able to Force grip him, and he appears to be inferior to her. Altogether I don't fancy his chances.
And I wouldn't say so, the Grand Inquisitor for one appears to be knowledgeable if not expert in her personal technique, whereas Depa has had no opportunity to become accustomed to his unorthodox lightsaber. He's supposedly "far more powerful" than either Ezra or Kanan, is practiced in all seven forms of lightsaber combat and a seeming master of the principle dueling form. He's pretty formidable.
The second time was when the Fifth Brother Force-gripped him, so it isn't like she scored the kick while dueling him - he had no way to defend himself while hovering above the ground. And I agree that the Sister was pressing the duel more so than him, but him being on the defensive during the majority of the duel may have been because his use of Soresu. During most of the fight the indicators that the Sister was his combative superior aren't that pronounced, at the most you can point out that she landed a kick on him and was the aggressor, but to me those details don't paint a picture saying the Sister is his definitive superior or that she would win a majority of confrontations. And I also don't think the fight between them would conclude before Depa vs. the G.I.
His knowledge of Depa's lightsaber technique would likely buy him time, but truthfully I put more stock into Depa's performance against Grievous than the Inquisitor's technical skill with a lightsaber. He's even noted in USW that his fighting skills aren't as good as his analytical skills. And to truly capitalize on his analytical ability against a Jedi Council Master such as Billaba, he would need to be up to snuff as a combatant. He's definitely a good fighter relative to the foes he would usually encounter, but I think Depa is beyond his pay grade by a fair margin. And the quote about the Inquisitor being far more powerful than Kanan and Ezra was definitely in reference to his earlier encounters with them.
Edit: I also believe it's stated somewhere that the Inquisitors lightsabers are designed to freak out inexperienced Jedi, so that they can strike at openings.
@Everyone else who has posted or who will post: If you think the ordering is ****ed up the ass, post who you think Depa and Kanan can beat and who they'd lose to.
Well lets not ignore the fact that Kanan was Force gripped in the first place, which only helped line Kanan up for the shot, I'm not seeing how it would have had any effect on his physical endurance. Noting that the first time he was only saved by Zeb catching him.
Concerning Soresu, a fair point, but that didn't stop him going all out offensive against the Inquisitor in their final battle, so I wouldn't say he's restricted it, nor can we be sure it follows the same principles as Legends Soresu in the new Canon.If she's able to knock him out with the kick or BFR with the Force, it could well do so.Don't get me wrong I find it unlikely the Inquisitor would win, I'm only arguing that he wouldn't prove at all easy to defeat.Considering with said analytical skills he's able to identify any Jedi's fighting style in 10 seconds, and even identify who taught them, that's hardly a detriment to his skill, very few lightsaber duelists have shown comparable ability, if any.Capitalise is a strong word, but being able to predict her techniques and tactics gives him a considerable advantage.Relative to his opponents I'd say he's more than good, aside from their final bout (which had various extenuating circumstances imo) Kanan was never much of a threat to him, and he capably defeated him every time. I'm confident he could punch a lot higher.She'd probably be less phased, yet at the same time double-bladed lightsabers have been described as a threat to even experienced masters.
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Depa should be able to defeat the GI handily. Though, despite that, I doubt it would be easy.
Anyway, it’s hard to really compare Depa to other masters like Luminara. But considering how skilled DS Bariss is, they probably lose at 3 (if they make it past 2).
Round 1: The Grand Inquisitor & the Seventh Sister - Clears.
Round 2: Qui-Gon Jinn & Obi-Wan Kenobi (TPM) - Clears.
Round 3: Luminara Unduli & Barriss Offee (Offee as of The Clone Wars: Season 5) - Clears.
Round 4: Obi-Wan Kenobi & Anakin Skywalker (AotC) - Stops.
Round 5: Quinlan Vos (EU) & Aayla Secura - Could go either way. Probably stops due to Kanan losing to both masters quicker then Depa could beat either. Unless this is padawan Aayla.
Round 6: Commander Karbin - Clears.
Round 7: Ben Kenobi & Luke Skywalker (TESB) - Clears? I think... Not sure.
Round 8: Asajj Ventress - Clears.
Round 9: Savage Opress - Clears.
Round 10: General Grievous - Stops.
Round 11: Darth Maul - Stops.
Darth Maul and Grievous are interchangeable imo so the final round is fine.
Savage and Ventress are interchangeable imo so the 2 before the final 2 is fine.
Ben Kenobi and ESB Luke Skywalker... I'm not really sure tbh but maybe they should be above Savage and Ventress?
AotC Anakin and Obi Wan should be moved way up.
Quinlan Vos and Aayla Secura should be put around AotC Anakin and Obi Wan's level ( also moved up if that wasn't clear ).
The teams in R1 and R2 should arguably be moved up too.
Feb 24th, 2016 06:37 PM
