Ok, but no one tried to correct me when I said "Didn't he fight off an army of clones or something?"
No, actually, I posted my Clone X1 and Clone X2 vs Boba Fett and Jango Fett on THREE different places.
ComicVine, Killermovies, and Reddit.
And I only got one response from this guy on reddit, which basically just said "X1 and X2 win because they're force sensitive".
Maybe if you came up with better insults, I'd respond with banter, but if all you're gonna keep saying is "Jman is cancer", (in a thread where everyone is agreeing with me, nonetheless) its pointless to respond.
You respond with genuine hatred and anger, whereas to everyone else, its just banter, you don't want the board to improve, you wanna ***** out people who have different or unpopular opinions.
You don't know how to debate, you only know how to insult and troll and repeat the same argument for the same character OVER and OVER again, thinking "maybe if I say it enough, that feat will be better then their feat"!
But its not, and its never going to be, so... shut the **** up, come up with more then one argument for a character, and actually contribute something.
I responded on ComicVine, and several people responded on KMC, hon.
Where did I call you cancer in a thread where everyone was agreeing with you? And that's a nice bandwagon fallacy you've latched onto there. I wasn't saying you specifically are cancer, rather the "arguments" you form.
That is so totally true. I didn't come here to debate and correct flawed arguments, I came here specifically to take my day out on an internet random cuz I literally have nothing better to do. That is so right, you are just so right. You cracked the code, and you are soooo right.
Note: that was sarcasm
See, here's the problem with that: against any competent, semi-decent or genuinely good debater, I don't need to repeat myself. Maybe mention an argument again or strengthen it with something, but that's it. It's not just simply a replay button.
However, against you, I need to drill a point directly into a thick scalp of yours which can only repeat or move goalposts rather than debate. There's also the fact that you literally have no idea how to differentiate: repeating an argument and strengthening an argument.
Repeating:
User 1: Well I think X can beat Y because X threw a ship dat one time.
User 2: That was on a Dark Side Nexus, so it doesn't count.
User 1: Well X still threw a ship so dat counts so he'll beat Y.
Strengthening:
User 1: X would defeat Y because he can manipulate ships
User 2: That was on a Dark Side Nexus, so X was amplified.
User 1: Yes, but X grew in power considerably and thus it's certainly enough to suggest he's capable of throwing the ship again, this time on neutral ground, in his prime.
See the difference? I'm re-stating the same thing, but giving more proof or a different reason as to why my argument is valid. This is something you failed to comprehend and it was you -- not I -- that kept repeating: Finn is a stromtrooper, he's at best equal to a Clone trooper, so Zett Jukassa speedblitzes.
Were you starring at a mirror when you wrote this, by any chance?
Uh, no, you were the only one who responded, and while I appreciate that, I'm highly sure you did that to make a point, though I could be wrong.
Secondly, your entire argument was that Finn was a supersoldier that stomped other supersoldiers, and was trained in the Jedi Arts, which Zenwolf debunked.
You argued that was the reason he could take a Jedi, in all honesty, I feel like you were pissed off that Ren was being bashed and decided to come to his rescue by saying "Finn could take your average everyday Jedi."
When everyone disagreed.
I don't think you know what "jumping on the bandwagon".
Its when everyone else is doing something, so you start doing it too.
Me saying that you said I was cancer in threads where people agreed with me, -Cough- (Zoltan) is not jumping on the bandwagon, its merely making a statement.
You were like "after looking into it, Hux only says he envisions his training to be made after the Jedi", or something along those lines, when talking about First Order Stormtrooper training.
I don't recall. Although I'm looking at the info about it and all it says is that Hux was inspired by the Jedi Arts to create the FO Training. Which could mean anything, maybe just more focusing on melee combat than your average trooper would.
Which adds up since there are Riot Stormtroopers within the FO, trained to quell riots and the like.
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Last edited by Zenwolf on Aug 17th, 2016 at 04:53 AM
Yeah, I don't recall Zenwolf debunking anything and regarding his point:
Yeah, but if their training was inspired by Jedi, I don't think simple melee would be enough. Even in-canon, Jedi fighting arts are meant to be the most advanced in the galaxy. Not to mention their leader wants the Jedi purged from the Galaxy entirely and has in-depth knowledge on how Jedi work and the events of the Galactic Civil War and Clone Wars.
Not to mention, just wielding a melee weapon doesn't come close to resembling Jedi arts... Especially when they started wielding melee weapons late in their career(the first time in Before the Awakening which is only a few months/years before Episode VII). It's likely inspired in a sense that their physical, mental, and spiritual training is insane -- hence they get the title of supersoldier(not even joking), which usually is given to only high-class beings(for example: Master Chief or Deathstroke).
Yeah, it's jumping on a bandwagon. You're attempting to hide behind a general consesus in order to counter my unpopular opinion, rather than tackle it head-on.
Yes, it does. If you've trained your body, spirit and mind better, then you're bound to be the better fighter. That's just logic.
In the realm of Star Wars, where the only thing having the lable of "super" would be a Force user, being deemed a "supersoldier" strikes me as better than regular soldiers like Rebels, Stormies or Clones.
Now if you'll excuse me, I literally have a million better things to do than to run in circles with you.
Aug 16th, 2016 08:47 PM
Thanks Scribble!
