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How technically skilled was sidious in saber combat?
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cs_zoltan
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Originally posted by DarthAnt66
wtf, quantity in knowledge isn't < quality in knowledge


Ofc a Revan wanker would say that.


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Don't give a shit what they talk about. Starkiller mastered more forms than Anakin, I suppose you think he'd win then?


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And quality isn't what we refer to when we say technical skill. People say Cin Drallig is more technically skilled than Anakin but he gets curbed in actual combat.


Drallig was more technically skilled than Anakin in that he knew more forms, but when it came to sheer skill, as in natural proficiency with a blade, Anakin was flat-out better.

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Drallig was more technically skilled than Anakin in that he knew more forms, but when it came to sheer skill, as in natural proficiency with a blade, Anakin was flat-out better.


And that's why he won and that's why it's more important. Duh.


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Of course it's more important in a fight. But this thread is about technical skill. So I answer in relevance to the former, not the latter.

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Originally posted by Beniboybling
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Boo boo's

1. We don't know the exact reason why Anakin beat Cin; it could've been augmentation related; similar to how Dooku lost, or Anakin basically blitzed him through superior strength and speed. If not that, then Anakin won through superior lightsaber skill.

Lightsaber skill to me means anything not related to force augmentation that a user relies on to defeat an opponent in battle. This could be knowledge on the forms, in-depth mastery of one or more forms, knowledge of weaknesses, etc.

E.g Vitiate doesn't have shit when it comes to saberskill, but he has incredible augmentation to make up for it.

Pre-Vizsla could be an extremely skilled-duelist (not saying he is), but could easily be defeated by padawans due to his lack of augmentation.


As for natural proficiency with a blade...meh....I say that falls into the force power-level category.


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And generally speaking I agree quality > quantity

That's why Dooku himself said something along the lines of a jedi who focuses on all the forms will never be as effective in combat as one who dedicates all their time to solely one.


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And generally speaking I agree quality > quantity

That's why Dooku himself said something along the lines of a jedi who focuses on all the forms will never be as effective in combat as one who dedicates all their time to solely one.
Which is why Sidious focused on using what most duelists would consider Juyo ("a Sith style").

And never misused his power. You know; until the Battle of Pinnacle Base.

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this thread is cancer


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this thread is cancer
Ironically, cancer's the 4chan term for whatever kills a thread

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this thread is cancer


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In the Senate room fight Yoda clearly had the upper hand on Sidious in their lightsaber duel BUT the terrain favoured Yoda heavily as there was no room for Sidious to maneuver trapped in the Chancellors podium. A fight on neutral ground would be a different story I think, as seen when Sidious fought the Zabrak brothers he's almost unstoppable when he's got some room to maneuver.

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my point exactly

this thread got dead at the moment of its inception thumb up


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Originally posted by JKBart
my point exactly

this thread got dead at the moment of its inception thumb up
Thank you Bart I take that as a compliment smile


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More skilled than anyone in the mythos outside of Yoda and GM Luke.


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I mean he taught Grievous so you can't really say he doesn't...


kenobi taught anakin so obviously he mastered djem so
qui gon taught kenobi so he mastered soresu
maul taught oppress so he mastered djem so
bane taught zannah so he mastered soresu

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More skilled than anyone in the mythos outside of Yoda and GM Luke.

bingo

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qui gon taught kenobi so he mastered soresu


not true. Kenobi learned Ataru from QGJ, Obi mastered Soresu during the Clone Wars.

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Again, comprehend:

Drallig was more technically skilled than Anakin in that he knew more forms, but when it came to sheer skill, as in natural proficiency with a blade, Anakin was flat-out better.
Technical skill =/= technical mastery and Dooku explictly states that mastering all seven styles is a waste of time.


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