In my (albeit short) lifetime, I have noticed that the vast majority of the human race is weak and pathetic. They follow leaders blindly and accept every word they hear as fact, and for the most part, cannot think for themselves. While there are individuals who are not like this, who do have the mental faculties to apply critical thinking to most things, they are few and far between, relatively speaking. Most of humanity is, in my opinion, pretty dumb, and, well, sheep.
Given the sheer amount of people who are like that, and will be like that for the foreseeable future, it is a futile task to attempt to change the very nature of their species. However, while the average human is quote stupid, there are people far below that, who are far worse. The focus of my argument will be about these people, and how they should be treated.
Let’s first describe the people in question. Relatively mild cases would be bullies, troublemakers etc. who harass other people and destroy public property for the simple reason that it makes them laugh. Worse are people such as rapists, violent drunks and other such lowlives. At the bottom of the barrel are murders, all types of them, be they simple knife-loving psychos or suicide bombers. What all these have in common is that they not only contribute absolutely nothing to society, but actively detract from it. I have defined all of the above under the umbrella term of “idiots”.
I know for a fact that you agree with me on that they should be punished and face the consequences of their actions, as does the rest of the world – we have laws forbidding those kinds of things and jails to house such people, after all.
But I think we should take it a step further. Instead of simply handing put jail sentences, we should let them taste their own medicine and commit the same acts on them that they did to be in prison i.e. if they kill someone by stabbing them in the abdomen, they should be killed by being stabbed in the abdomen, or if they burned someone to death, they should be burned to death as well. This is justice and karma in its purest form, and would skip the entire process of courts and things like that. They waste everyone’s time and it’s far simpler to let the criminal decide their own sentence beforehand.
This applies on the small scale as well, for example if a school bully beats up another kid, then they should be beaten up as well. Unless they are a masochist, this method would quickly set things straight and bullying would stop out of fear. Similarly, if they interrupt lessons and harass teachers, their right to learn should be stripped from them and they should be put to slave labor. Only through hard work could they earn the right to study again.
These methods I described would not affect anyone other than idiots. Normal people would live their lives totally unaffected-- well, not entirely true, since in the absence of idiots, their lives would improve and they wouldn’t have to live in fear of punishment either, since no sensible person would do any of the things I mentioned. All in all, it would be a positive change on the world. Normal people would have nothing taken from them and the idiots would be rooted out. When there’s no one interfering with the work of those trying to improve society and when people can freely express themselves without the fear of being targeted for being different, humanity would take one step towards stepping out of the stupidity zone.
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That's a very barbaric method to deal with criminal, which takes us back to middle age. If you are interested I suggest you read Becarria's "Dei Delitti e delle pene". Beccaria was an Italian philosopher who lived in the 18th century and in that book (don't know its title in English) he was one of the first to address this subject. In the end, both him (and those who followed him) came to the conclusion that a life sentence, basically obliging a person to stay in jail for the rest of their life, or a very long time aniway (like 30 years) is far worse than killing the criminal (and he said in the 1700s, when there was still death sentence in the Italian states), because limiting the individual's liberty, of movement, of doing anything he wants) is far worse than death. Think about it, is it worse to spend the rest of your life in a little room, without seeing your friends, your relatives, despised by all those around you, or suffer for a few seconds, maybe minutes and then die? Maybe death is more scary, and you would choose jail over death sentence every day of the week, but trust me in the long term you' re gonna break and ask for death rather than staying one day longer locked away. Then you also have the swedish point of view. Swedish people don't see a criminal ( especially murderers' psychopaths etc) only as threat to society, but they see in these individuals also the enbodiment of their failures. Basically, according to Sweden (and according to many other EU countries too) even the government must have an active role in formation of the individual, of the citizen, through school and other initiatives. If a person grows older and becomes a ferocious murderer it's also the country's fault ( I'd say at least 50% of the fault is of the country, the rest is of the parents, friends etc) because its government, its society wasn't able to look after this person, to nurture him/her, to understand his/her background and what went wrong in their way to become an adult. Because I think we can all agree no one was born evil or good, it's the experiences, the education we receive that shape our personality. So, according to Swedish, you don't put a person in jail only to punish them, but it also represents a second chance for the country to nurture this individual, to give him the education he/she lacked in their childhood, to atone for not being able to support him/her in their youth. Basically Jail should not be seen as a pushinmemt, but also as a "school", where qualified personnel (psychologists, doctors etc) talk with you, try to understand what's wrong and try to put you back in right path.
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Skipping over the courts, if I'm taking this the right way, would completely avoid due process. The U.S is governed, generally, by a simple rule, innocent until proven guilty. What you're suggesting is assuming guilt until innocence is proven, but if we assume guilt immediately, punishment is delivered sooner and the victim of said punishment has no chance to prove their innocence, if they are in fact innocent. While I agree with the methods of execution, the circumvention of due process is something that can't be allowed to occur.
As far as punishment goes, the concept of an eye for an eye is something I find appealing, and is something I believe would reduce crime spectacularly. The problem with the nation now is that criminals don't fear the law. So, we should make them fear it by introducing barbaric methods. If you steal, you lose a hand, if you kill, you are killed, etc. Some people might try quoting Gandhi's famous "an eye for an eye makes the whole world blind", but that idea isn't really true. If we were to consider it literally, an eye for an eye still leave each person with one eye. Personally, I would not be at all opposed to the reintroduction of execution methods like hangings, beheading, and Crucifixion. Yes, they're barbaric, but they're also terrifying. A person who is afraid of a crime's punishment, is a person who is less likely to commit a crime and risk receiving that punishment.
Ultimately, the courts are needed, due process is needed. But when guilt IS proven, we should be allowed to go no holds barred. If a rapist is proven guilty, chop their dick off, if a murderer is convicted, take them out back and shoot them in the head, etc.
Nothing but a divagation (and arrogance) from a liberal, middle class, college student with plenty free time that never had to do eight hours of hard labour a single day in his life.
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Apr 28th, 2017 05:59 AM
