Putting myself in the perspective of the Jedi's when they were training, don't you think it's a little strange that some of them specialized in certain form styles, when there is no point to them at all at the time?
Example a) Mace Windu is a form VII specialist, which took it one step further and developed Vapaad right? When he was training and developing that style, who is he training to fight? There are no Siths or Dark force users at the time of his training from padawan to Master. So why would he be training in that style? Wouldn't someone redirect him to another form that is more useful to the Jedi's at the time?
Example b) Dooku, when he was a padawan and later knight and then Jedi master, why was he training in form II? Form II is for combat in saber to saber right? Why would he be training in a saber form to fight other sabers, when there are none to fight, and haven't been for hundreds of years? There are no Sith, or Dark Jedi's at that time are there? So who is he training to fight?
Isn't that kind of like a soldier in the 2005 army training with Muskets, on the off chance that a musket using army will resurface sometime in the future, even though there haven't been any for over a century?
They turned out to be useful of course, but is that kind of just dumb luck that they did?
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I don't read much EU, but could it be that they are trained in multiple forms, and are using their preferred form, or most useful form for the situation?
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maybe the jedi trained in the way of saber to saber froms because the realised evil nevers dies while gd lives and the sith are the ultimate evilin theSW galaxy and also there is still the lure of the darkside that can take eve the strongest jedi to the darkside u no train them as a fail safe
If they were just doing it in preperation for the return of the Sith after 1000 years of them being gone, they sure didn't want to accept the Siths return when it did happen. Mace himself, the one with the useless saber form without dark force users to fight, said it himself. "I do not believe the Sith could have returned without our knowledge"...
You would think Windu, having a new use for his so far useless saber form would be happier. You would also think the Jedi's would have sent Windu to figure out the mystery of the Sith, rather then a form III fighter like Qui Gon who had no real advantage over a dark force user like Maul. The conversation should have gone:
Windu: "YEAH BABY, finally my training has paid off. I told all you **** it would come in handy someday. I'll go fuk up the siths Qui Gon, you hang back here and smoke a bowl"
Qui Gon: "We all used to laugh at you in training with your form VII Windu, but it seems the joke is finally on us. Go ahead, go find Maul and take him out."
Yoda: "About your saber form Mace, correct you were. To fuk up the siths Windu will go. Smoke a bowl the rest of us will"
I take it back... I have an idea, I agree with what the people have said,
(I repeat) it is just to be prepared... Windu said he did not sense the siths presence not that they would never re-emerge
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True, preperation is the only explanation. But if something has been extinct for over 1000 years like the Siths have, it just doesn't make much sense to prepare for their possible return. Oh well, not important, and it did seem to pay off for him in the end, if only Anakin haden't lopped off his fuking arm it may have changed the outcome...
That also makes me question, WTF is UP WITH MACE WINDU NOT PAYING ATTENTION TO ANAKIN THAT STUPID IDIOT! I mean even Mace Windu said that he sensed much confusion in him and that he didn't trust so I mean WTF, and how come he couldn't just block that sh*& too... I mean that was pretty lame way to kill off like one best masters. 2nd best to Yoda... I was soo pissed at Anakin when I saw that!
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o0o0o0o... that last reply had alot of typos... but basically what I meant to say is why didn't Mace Windu predict Anakins reaction to him attempting to kill the Palps with everything Mace Windu himself had said in the 3rd movie. It just doesn't make sense...
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O one last note why did Mace windu scream like a freaking baby when he got his hand chopped off when Anakin (Anakin even got all his limps chopped off too) and Dooku never did... I mean what a penis! But I still love Mace Windu!
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Ya it was a lame way to die for Windu. Such a strong Jedi as Windu should never be victim to a single blow like that. Jedi's can see the future, which means he would have been able to block that forsure.
They should have made that scene about 5 seconds longer actually. Anakin and Windu having a very short quick saber exchange before Windu gets his arm cut off. Like 4 or 5 swings with blocking, and very quick moves by anakin to catch him off guard and take his arm quickly. But one single blow like that? not a chance.
Same as Maul at the end of TPM. No fuking way obi wan can flip over him, and hit him with that incredibly slow slash. They should have made him flip over, and obi wan goes ape shit with like 5 or 6 swings that most are blocked except the last one. They could make them fast 5 second exchanges where the final blow lands. Same effect and same outcome, but looks far more plausable then the single blow.
And don't even get me started on Palps gutting those 3 Jedi's with single blows. Come on, extend the scene 15 more seconds, and at least make it appear like they were defending themselves. That first guy wasen't even looking at palps. He got impailed by the VERY FIRST SWING. WTF
Re: Re: Saberfighting forms... aren't some useless?
hes not complaining, hes trying to start a discussion between educated star wars fans. he brings up a good point, even if his question is easily answered he brought up a bit of a discussion with his thread, something ive failed to see you do
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