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the greatest secret revealed

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Science is now proving that there is only ONE WAY in which everything is created, including your happiness, prosperity, relationships, situations etc.. There is only one way, one process, one Secret to creating anything in your life, in the world, and in the universe. And either you learn it and use it to create the life you’ve always wanted, or you can leave it to chance and take what life gives you. It’s your choice… If you take the time to learn this Secret now, you will have “mastered physicality.” In other words, you will have the ability to create things in the physical world at will, whenever you want them. This may sound absurd or “to good to be true,” but science is now proving what many mystics and spiritual leaders have been trying to teach us for years… that we have the power to create our heart’s desires at will, if we would just USE THE POWER! So you can finally relax. You don’t have to keep trying method after method, one technique after another, going from seminar to seminar, or reading book after book until you are buried in them. There is only ONE WAY to create anything, and once you know and apply this process, you will get precisely what you create. This is an exact science. All other methods and techniques are but variations on one incredible Universal Truth… and there is an effective way to use it to get what you want, and many ineffective ways that could actually work against you. “There is only one way to create anything in your life.” So it is very important that you understand exactly how this process works and how you can effectively and predictably use it to create what you desire in your life. In fact, this is one of the most important lessons you will ever learn in your lifetime so pay close attention. The rest of your life depends on it… So here then is an outline of one of the most important discoveries of our time. Here is how The Greatest Secret works…

The Science Behind the Secret… 1. Everything is made of energy… Science is now proving that our physical universe is really made of energy. If you were to break down everything you see around you, including yourself, into smaller and smaller particles (atoms, electrons, protons etc..), you would end up with very small, subatomic particles, which is pure energy. Everything you see in your world, including the chair or couch you are sitting on, the people around you, the money in your wallet or purse, the building you are in… EVERYTHING is made of energy. So even though things seem to be solid and separate around you, on the atomic and subatomic levels, everything blends together in one big energy soup. Since everything is made of energy, including you, your relationships, your health, your money, even your success and happiness, then these things are all affected by the Laws of Physics or the Natural Laws of the Universe as many spiritual leaders have called them for centuries. More importantly, once you understand these Laws, you can predictably affect and even direct things such as money, relationships, health etc.. into your life as you so desire. This may seem like magic, but it is nothing more than you working with the natural, scientific laws that have created everything that exists today. 2. We emit “thought” energy… The next exciting discovery is the fact that the thoughts in our heads do not stay in our heads. Scientists have discovered that “thought” is actually pure energy and it is sent out or broadcast from our bodies into the universe. Thoughts are actually transmitted from our bodies like a radio transmitter and then this “energy” travels outward.

Everyone and everything on the planet- and in the universe- is emitting energy; and one of the primary ways of broadcasting this energy is with our thoughts. And this “thought energy” has the ability to create reality. And science is now proving this point… 3. Thoughts affect and create physical reality… Science is now proving that our thoughts have the ability to literally create things in the universe. In the past, we did not have the equipment to gauge any changes or creations caused by our thoughts. But now, with the advent of what are known as particle accelerators (magnifying devices that allow us to see the smallest particles), we can witness the changes our thoughts produce in the physical world. By using particle accelerators, physicists have discovered that subatomic particles (the essence or energy that makes up our physical world) appear to exist only when someone is thinking about them, or trying to observe them. When a scientist puts his or her attention on them, they flash into existence. This means that subatomic particles are created by sending thoughts in their direction. So when a scientist begins to observe a viewing area, the particles or essence of all physical matter materializes. “Our attention directed to the formless wave energy is what creates the reality that we call particle or solid, or the physical world.” In other words, you literally create reality with your thoughts. Another shocking discovery was that when one scientist thought that the subatomic particles should act or behave in a certain way, they did. If another scientist thought they should behave in a different way, they did. In other words, the particles that make up our reality changed and responded according to the thoughts of the scientists. The exciting conclusion of this observation is: “Creation of anything in the physical universe is determined by what kind of attention you place on it.” In other words, what you think about the most, you bring about. What you focus on, good or bad, you begin to create. But wait, it gets even better…


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Too simplistic and gimmicky.


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Deano
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yeh me too, alot of this is in ickes new book..and plus ive read the holographic universe and its all very fascinating


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I have the Holographic Universe.....very good book.

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Too simplistic and gimmicky.


I don't mean to sound negative, but that's how it strikes me. They make a claim that this is new but it's not.


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doesnt rlly matter if its new or not, its still very fascinating.
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The fractal nature of the world is well established. We know that fractals are self-similar patterns on different dimensional scales. This is clearly a property of the holograph produced from the hologram photographic plate. The author, in the acticle Free Will and Fractals, shows also that consciousness could be analysed in terms of fractals, tying in with our other approach of relating consciousness to the learning pattern and in turn with its holographic character. Thus consciousness and freewill are inherently holographic. But why? See article The Source of Fractals. To express in energy form, in the most efficient manner, the basic unmanifest of no space or time, those energies will distribute so that the infinite potential parts separate out, covering small to large to the whole (every state), forming a hierarchy with smallest parts (lowest frequencies) at the 'bottom', rising to the whole at the 'top', and all parts are interlinked and can thus access the others but through the rules/physics of the dimensional levels.

Thus the whole is reflected in its parts and we have a holographic property. The greater the strength of the whole (meaning unity) the greater the strength of the part or individual--more energy, frequency, understanding, is fed to that part. Each part is as strong as its whole is operating efficiently.

As a very brief piece of evidence for those readers who recognise valuable transmissions of information from extraterrestrials is that we are told Earth has a DNA, that is, it has codes with correspondences to human DNA. These codes are stored in the planet's grid system. This is of course an area which our orthodox science knows nothing about. Thus if the grid codes are changed (or mutated), this informational change will transfer to all living DNA on the planet (similarly the reverse flow will also work).


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It's the "Law of Attraction"....you attract much of what you dwell on...some claim that's why people in groups see such things as weeping statues of Mary....They are in one accord, one thought...and so it attracts a manifestation of what they desire to see...Never heard about the extraterrestrials really though.

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science is just now proving everything in our physical world is made of energy? wow.............this guy must be WAAAAAAAAAAY behind on his research.

um.........so how exactly does this guy claim that energy within our brains leave our heads?.......and how exactly does one form this energy into matter once it seeps out of our skulls?.....I'm not reading all of that rubbish.............


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I think this article is designed to sale something. It's not real science and it's not Buddhist, I think it's trying to sale a new book.


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http://www.newsforthesoul.com/icke-may9-2005.htm

icke talking about this stuff, good listen


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The text can make some sense, but I don´t remember ever seeing a theory about our thoughts leaving our heads, no thought emission or something alike. But yes, in quantum mechanics there is a interpretation that things are said to exist just when they are being observed, and that particles do what we expect they to do, but its not so simple, that must be understood in a very precise way.

As for that site http://www.newsforthesoul.com/icke-may9-2005.htm... What the hell is that !? "Click play and prepare to see your world in a whole new way ... just order your CD" Horrible !


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Well thoughts can leave your head and travel into the connectedness of everything around including people...Now it is said that there are people who can materialize things...some in India too. .but I have never seen it myself....I do know that everything effects every things else on small and grand scales.

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Well thoughts can leave your head and travel into the connectedness of everything around including people...Now it is said that there are people who can materialize things...some in India too. .but I have never seen it myself....I do know that everything effects every things else on small and grand scales.


This is an idea in quantum physics that has been taken too far and is nothing but pallor tricks.


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I'm not disbelieving this theory, but there is no proof in science about that. Actually I think it would be a nice way to explain why wavefunctions collapse only when we become aware of them. Maybe our thoughts could be some active agent in the physical universe that makes them collapse. Like in Roger Penrose, and Stuart Hammerhoff theory about quantum consciousness ; they think that our consciousness has some role in the collapsing of a wavefunction. Physics cannot describe the collapse of a wavefunction, that makes some physicists to think that the wavefunction is just a mathematical tool, and its not real, this way they don´t need to explain its collapse. But if the wavefunction is real then we have to explain its collapse, and a way to explain is by quantum consciousness.


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I'm not disbelieving this theory, but there is no proof in science about that. Actually I think it would be a nice way to explain why wavefunctions collapse only when we become aware of them. Maybe our thoughts could be some active agent in the physical universe that makes them collapse. Like in Roger Penrose, and Stuart Hammerhoff theory about quantum consciousness ; they think that our consciousness has some role in the collapsing of a wave-function. Physics cannot describe the collapse of a wave-function, that makes some physicists to think that the wave-function is just a mathematical tool, and its not real, this way they don´t need to explain its collapse. But if the wave-function is real then we have to explain its collapse, and a way to explain is by quantum consciousness.


I'm on the side that says that wave-function is not real. big grin


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I'm on the side that says that wave-function is not real. big grin


Things that exist usually have dimensions like seconds, meters, volts, etc. But the wave-funtion of the quantum mechanics are just numbers(and not even common numbers, but complex numbers), if its value is 5, then its just 5, its not like 5 volts. It is strange to think of a physical meaning to numbers only without dimensions.

If wave-functions are not real then non-locality is not real too, I mean it will have no pratical application it will be only philosophical gibberish. It would mean that objective reality does not exist too, objetive reality would be a mathematical model purely platonical. But it is a interesting thought that reality could be a mathetical model, like a computer program, or just any logical set of rules.

But to say that the wave-function is not real is a good way to ignore some questions, because this way physicists doesn´t need to explain consciousness; as if it did not exist. And they wouldn´t need to explain objective reality too, since it would not exist; some physicists like Stephen Hawking would say that the job of physics is not to tell what is real and what is not, but to describe observed phenomena. I think some physicists say that the wave-function is not real just to run away of those problems. It will bring strange philosophical implications.


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Things that exist usually have dimensions like seconds, meters, volts, etc. But the wave-funtion of the quantum mechanics are just numbers(and not even common numbers, but complex numbers), if its value is 5, then its just 5, its not like 5 volts. It is strange to think of a physical meaning to numbers only without dimensions.

If wave-functions are not real then non-locality is not real too, I mean it will have no pratical application it will be only philosophical gibberish. It would mean that objective reality does not exist too, objetive reality would be a mathematical model purely platonical. But it is a interesting thought that reality could be a mathetical model, like a computer program, or just any logical set of rules.

But to say that the wave-function is not real is a good way to ignore some questions, because this way physicists doesn´t need to explain consciousness; as if it did not exist. And they wouldn´t need to explain objective reality too, since it would not exist; some physicists like Stephen Hawking would say that the job of physics is not to tell what is real and what is not, but to describe observed phenomena.


I'm not as up on that as I should be to add to this conversation. For me, this is were science stops and religion takes over, all of the universe we understand is not real. However, there is a real universe and we are in it. We can not understand the real universe because we are just little life forms on a blue planet and there has never been any evolutionary advantage to understanding the real universe. I hope one day we will understand a lot more of the real world, but we will never completely understand it because of what we are.


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