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Greek gods vs Norse gods

Heres a thought who do you like more or who would you worship Greek Gods or Norse gods? This topic kinda of came up when I think to myself why I like the Norse gods opposed to Greek god.

Lets face it at the end of the day if you want to worship the Greek gods its a matter of opinion and I know some people still do today, but I find myself asking why would you want to do that?

First of all it seems that the Greeks gods are really untrustworthy, capricious and jealous. All through Greek mythology there are examples of the Greek gods punishing man at a whim. Can't remember the exact details but there is a myth of a man who accidently saw Artemis naked and gets killed because Artemis was outraged...im sure you could think of other examples.

There are also some WTF moments for example Promotheus is punished by the gods for helping mankind.....I mean c'mon man, wtf I thought you gods had our back. On top of that they send Pandora to earth as a punishment. erm

Sure myths are to not to be taken literially but at the same time as a worshipper of the Greek gods it would make me nervous worshipping them.

Ok so lets look at the Norse gods...are they perfect, nope. By and large though the Norse gods help each other and mankind and are generally a team. The exceptions to the rule are Loki and Odin.

Loki, what do you expect he is the god of mischief alot of people don't know though that when Loki does something wrong he actually trys to make up for what hes done and the gods end up benefitting from it.

Odin can be quite scarey but even when he does something 'bad', theres tends to be a good reason for it, for examples Odin tends to kill his followers in battle but the reason for this is because he needs his followers at Raganarok to fight Fenris. In one story he kills some peasents but he does this because he wants to gain the trust of a giant so he can steal something from from him and help mankind....you might disagree with the methods but at least his intentions are pure.

Out of all the myths I can really only think of one example where Thor does something that makes you think WTF. All the other gods are pretty reliable and trustworthy. Its just seems to me you cannot like The Greek Gods in an objective sense, you could only worship them if you have an infatuation with Greek culture where you ignore the negative actions of the gods.

Anyway thoughts?

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I always thought Zeus was kewl and could take Odin but your point well taken bout Odin usually having a good reason for being wrathful....I wouldnt worship any of them but Thor according to comics..lol.. was protector of mankind(Totally different kinda thor in comics though)...herakles hercules whatever was protector of man also both sons were known for protecting earth at the expense of pissing off daddy...lol...I personally wonder if those "gods" were in fact real beings created by the breeding of angels with other beings???(recent thought of mine pending deep research) but anyways I always thought Zeus was the more powerful of the two but Odin in comics sometimes seemed more all around powerful if the two ever engaged in battle....true research on the mythology of the two I have not finished just really begun...as the idea of them actually existing before the flood came across my path....and by NO means do I mean to say they were actual gods...just powerful spiritual beings that God himself had to do away with as they were abominations maybe? OIh and about Loki he was adopted wasnt he or was that just comics too...suppose to be offspring off Odins enemies killed his parents or something...something like that


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Greek and Norse Gods act like humans. People tend to associate with what ressembles them, even if it's not perfection. For us, it is much more plausible to imagine an imperfect God than a perfect God.

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Greek and Norse Gods act like humans. People tend to associate with what ressembles them, even if it's not perfection. For us, it is much more plausible to imagine an imperfect God than a perfect God.


Thats true.....but I thought that reliability was usually a universally accepted positive trait.

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Thats true.....but I thought that reliability was usually a universally accepted positive trait.


The Greeks and Norse Gods weren't reliable. In past times, they could explain their loss of power or battle that way. They just said that the Gods didn't help them on the field.

Take this principle and apply it in our world today. It is strangely reconforting to know a God with us and that when we lose, blame that he wasn't there, than to fail while having a perfect omnipotent and omnipresent God looking aftert you.

If I was born 2000 years ago, it would probably make more sense to me to worships those Greek and Norse Gods than the Christian God.

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fenris wud prolly destroy most of the greek pantheon.

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The Greeks and Norse Gods weren't reliable. In past times, they could explain their loss of power or battle that way. They just said that the Gods didn't help them on the field.

Take this principle and apply it in our world today. It is strangely reconforting to know a God with us and that when we lose, blame that he wasn't there, than to fail while having a perfect omnipotent and omnipresent God looking aftert you.

If I was born 2000 years ago, it would probably make more sense to me to worships those Greek and Norse Gods than the Christian God.


Thats not what this thread is about. I can't prove that if I pray to Thor I will be luckier than if I pray to Zeus. What im doing is looking at the myths of both Greek and Norse gods and making a judgement on who I should worship based on how they behaved in the myths....you are talking about something different.

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fenris wud prolly destroy most of the greek pantheon.


Are you taking the piss? What the f**k?

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Thats not what this thread is about. I can't prove that if I pray to Thor I will be luckier than if I pray to Zeus. What im doing is looking at the myths of both Greek and Norse gods and making a judgement on who I should worship based on how they behaved in the myths....you are talking about something different.



Are you taking the piss? What the f**k?


You should read Homer's Illiad. That would be the best example to comprehend what you are asking. I've read it and it blew my mind. Each Troy and the Greeks had their own God to worship, all cooperating on Mount Olympus. The way the interactions went was tremendously powerful.

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You should read Homer's Illiad. That would be the best example to comprehend what you are asking. I've read it and it blew my mind. Each Troy and the Greeks had their own God to worship, all cooperating on Mount Olympus. The way the interactions went was tremendously powerful.


I haven't read that but from the myths ive read there is alot of in-fighting and backstabbing with the gods and lots of examples of them punishing mankind on a whim.

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I haven't read that but from the myths ive read there is alot of in-fighting and backstabbing with the gods and lots of examples of them punishing mankind on a whim.


Yes, your myths told you right. Fascinating, isn't it?

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Yes, your myths told you right. Fascinating, isn't it?


Not really your just being a dick because I haven't read the Illiad. I have read alot of myths but not the Illiad. I'll keep an open mind and read the illiad until then. However most of the myths I have read have not been positive. Not a simple concept to undertsand and theres no need to act like an obnoxious ****.

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Not really your just being a dick because I haven't read the Illiad. I have read alot of myths but not the Illiad. I'll keep an open mind and read the illiad until then. However most of the myths I have read have not been positive. Not a simple concept to undertsand and theres no need to act like an obnoxious ****.


I've read what I wrote, and I understand your frustration. I did not intend to denigrate you. I really sayed it was facinating, because it IS fascinating. I'm a big mythology fan, and I've read alot of mythical stories.

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I've read what I wrote, and I understand your frustration. I did not intend to denigrate you. I really sayed it was facinating, because it IS fascinating. I'm a big mythology fan, and I've read alot of mythical stories.


embarrasment Sorry im a bit of a hot-head.

Anyway what exactly were you refering to in the Illiad> How people worshipped them or the actual actions of the gods. I could be wrong but I thought the Illiad was more to do with human heroes not the gods.

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embarrasment Sorry im a bit of a hot-head.

Anyway what exactly were you refering to in the Illiad> How people worshipped them or the actual actions of the gods. I could be wrong but I thought the Illiad was more to do with human heroes not the gods.


As am I, all is forgiven. big grin

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thor>hercules
odin>zeus
fenris>hades
yygrassil>olympus

NORSE WIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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lmao

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Zeus and the other greeks defeated the Titans.

Also, Fenris is killed by having his jaws ripped apart during Ragnarok, he isn't unstoppable.


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embarrasment Sorry im a bit of a hot-head.

Anyway what exactly were you refering to in the Illiad> How people worshipped them or the actual actions of the gods. I could be wrong but I thought the Illiad was more to do with human heroes not the gods.


What is funny in the Illiad is that, actually, humans are peons moved on the chessboards by the Gods. It seems they settle their differences playing chess with humans.

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Greek: generally better stories
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The golden showers, bestiality, pederasty, rape and incest all do it for you, eh?


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