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Child abuse scandal in Orthodox Jewish community

Quick, run another story on the Catholic Church!
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An Orthodox Jewish community has had to face up to claims of child sex abuse after 83 men and two women were arrested.

An initiative was set up to encourage victims to come forward despite pressure from the close-knit religious society to hush up the crimes.

Some 117 male and female victims have approached authorities in Brooklyn, New York since 2006. There were 89 accusers under the age of 17.

According to the New York Post, one suspect Andrew Goodman, 27, worked with Jewish charities involving vulnerable young people and the disabled.

He was charged with sexually abusing two Orthodox boys at his home in the Flatbush neighbourhood last September.

One child was abused between the ages of 11 and 15, the other from 13 until he was 16 years old.

Goodman reportedly filmed sex acts with the boys on a webcam after plying them with alcohol in his bedroom and making them watch child porn.

Neighbours had filmed Goodman sneaking the children into the home he shared with his parents and sister between 3am and 5.30am.

In the surveillance tape, Goodman was seen opening his front door for the boys, according to the Post.

Lubricants, empty liquor bottles, boys’ clothing and a butcher knife were discovered in the 27-year-old's room.


Goodman’s lawyer Izzy Fried told the New York Post that the alleged victims were 'troubled kids' and his client had provided them with a 'safe haven'.

He also threatened the life of one boy who reported him to authorities, it has been claimed. Goodman has pleaded not guilty.

He is being held at Rikers Island Prison until his next hearing on December 21.

After being shown the footage in court last September, Judge Patricia DiMango set the suspected paedophile's bail at $1million.

Brooklyn District Attorney's office had been accused of being soft on child abusers which lead to steps being put in place to make it easier for suspected victims to come forward.

The plan was called Kol Tzedek which translates from Hebrew as 'voice of justice'.

DA Charles Hynes instigated the outreach programme which offers a confidential hotline and access to 'culturally sensitive' social workers from the sex crimes bureau.

Assistant DA Rhonnie Jaus, head of the child sex abuse division, said 38 individuals had been prosecuted so far with 14 abusers jailed.

Sentences varied from one month to 20 years for crimes including sex abuse, attempted kidnapping and sodomy.

However 24 alleged paedophiles were not jailed. In some instances, the case against them collapsed when victims and their families backed out of giving evidence in court following pressure from the religious community, according to the assistant DA.

Authorities have another 47 cases pending.

The Orthodox Jewish organisation Agudath Israel of America, which has its headquarters in Manhattan, rules that anyone who claims to have been sexually abused by another Jew must consult rabbis first.

Only then is the decision made whether to go to secular authorities.

Goodman worked for OHEL Children's Home and Family Services which provides care for vulnerable children and disabled adults. The non-profit group aims to help victims who have suffered domestic, sexual or emotional abuse.

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Lubricants, empty liquor bottles, boys’ clothing and a butcher knife were discovered in the 27-year-old's room


None of these should be expected in a house!


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None of these should be expected in a house!

Ah, a fine mensch you are, distracting the goyim from the issue at hand. Good work; you will make a fine shabbos goy.

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Ah, a fine mensch you are, distracting the goyim from the issue at hand. Good work; you will make a fine shabbos goy.


Oy!


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Re-named. That original title was ridiculous, zeal. You've been warned about your offensive posting before.


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None of these should be expected in a house!


They were found in his room which corroborates some of the stories from the victims (other evidence from the victims?). They should be able to nail that guy for CP, at the very least. The data just doesn't disappear...even if you delete it.


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As long as it didn't happen on the Sabbath, then it should be ok...

*I think I'll have some pork now*


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As long as it didn't happen on the Sabbath, then it should be ok...

*I think I'll have some pork now*


laughing

That sounds like something Jaden would say.


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They were found in his room which corroborates some of the stories from the victims (other evidence from the victims?). They should be able to nail that guy for CP, at the very least. The data just doesn't disappear...even if you delete it.


The boy's clothing is obviously suspicious but the rest of it is standard things to have in a house. Unless there was a charge that specifically involved a butchers knife I find it an hilarious thing to include.


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The boy's clothing is obviously suspicious but the rest of it is standard things to have in a house. Unless there was a charge that specifically involved a butchers knife I find it an hilarious thing to include.


I dunno, if a boy comes to you and says, "this guy buttraped me, threatened me with a butcher knife, stripped me naked and kept my cltohes, forced me to drink alchohol, and made me look at CP. This all took place in his room."

I'd expect to find the following in the perps room: a knife, anal lube, a butcher knife, the boy's clothes, and CP on the computer.

That makes sense to me. It is certainly not hilarious. Unless you find threatening a child to have sex with you, using a knife, hilarious. I know that's not what you find hilarious.


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Re: Child abuse scandal in Orthodox Jewish community

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Quick, run another story on the Catholic Church!


Why would you imply that people wouldn't find sexual abuse to be horrific just because it has a Jewish twist?


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Re: Re: Child abuse scandal in Orthodox Jewish community

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Why would you imply that people wouldn't find sexual abuse to be horrific just because it has a Jewish twist?


I PM'd Robtard my comment on this because I don't think that what Robtard is saying, above, is what Zeal was implying.

However, I won't say because SC said I ruined it last time (basically) because I gave Zeal a way out (about the imigration and voting thread). So I will not ruin it and allow Zeal to answer this question, here.


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Re: Re: Re: Child abuse scandal in Orthodox Jewish community

I replied to DDM's PM and told him why he's wrong, at least in part.


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I'm assuming the reason is some combination of the ADL and purported anti-christian bias among progressives


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You're forgetting anti-football too, Inimalist.


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You're forgetting anti-football too, Inimalist.


... inimalist... >: (

to be fair though, there are valid criticisms that can be made of the ADL and it is sort of strange that the media does go nuts for Catholic abuses but this sort of thing isn't more well known. Similar things might be said of the treatment of ultra-orthodox Jewish women versus the exposure any possible Muslim discrimination against women receives.

Though, thats more likely about dominant media narratives rather than any pro-Jewish conspiracy, the day organized Jewish groups fight against evolution or bomb the world trade center, you would see similar things appear in the more liberal spheres. It certainly is a stretch to think progressives are less offended by abuses of children done by Jews than those by Christians.


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There's probably also the fact that the Church has decades of known abuse under its belt which includes documented cases of the Church protecting known pedophiles and/or placing them in a scenario where they could(and have) harmed children again and again.


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I agree. And while there are armed violent Jewish groups, their actions are mainly deplorable in Israel. Their branches here are mainly defunct and are in that same category as RASH, SHARP, FSU, and ARA where you typically don't feel too bad for their victims.


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There's probably also the fact that the Church has decades of known abuse under its belt which includes documented cases of the Church protecting known pedophiles and/or placing them in a scenario where they could(and have) harmed children again and again.


for sure

though it did suggest there was some systemic protecting of the Rabbis by the religious authority, it doesn't seem like the type of thing that goes any higher than local authorities.

I'm sure the fact that more people went to church as children and can identify more with the story causes a greater reaction as well.

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I agree. And while there are armed violent Jewish groups, their actions are mainly deplorable in Israel. Their branches here are mainly defunct and are in that same category as RASH, SHARP, FSU, and ARA where you typically don't feel too bad for their victims.


exactly, Jews really don't come off as a group that Americans need to be afraid of.... since the 30s at least.....


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I dunno, if a boy comes to you and says, "this guy buttraped me, threatened me with a butcher knife, stripped me naked and kept my cltohes, forced me to drink alchohol, and made me look at CP. This all took place in his room."

I'd expect to find the following in the perps room: a knife, anal lube, a butcher knife, the boy's clothes, and CP on the computer.

That makes sense to me. It is certainly not hilarious. Unless you find threatening a child to have sex with you, using a knife, hilarious. I know that's not what you find hilarious.


Did the charge involve a butchers knife? I must have missed in the article.


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