So here we have two popular fantasy universes with enormous lore that breaks fantasy tropes (Elder Scrolls is INCREDIBLE at this). This is an all out battle in which every force in one universe is united against the other.
The Maker (if he even exists), Tiber Septim, Talos and Vivec are banned from the fight due to being broken auto win characters (and Vivec shoving his dick up enemy throats).
This is to see people's opinions on the matter. I'm proudly on Elder Scrolls side.
Some examples?
Blood Mages vs Necromancers? Dread Wolf vs Lorkhan? Old Gods vs Daedric Princes? Demons vs Daedra? Undead vs Undead? Ash Creatures vs...?
Dragon age wins because one if a darkspawn cuts you you become a darkspawn. They have Ogres that tank fire, and I think they have more dragons. Also blood magic that some powerful shit.
You become a ghoul, not a darkspawn. Ghouls are useless zombified humans. I don't think a darkspawn can make a god into a ghoul. The only dragon would be the Archdemon. Blood Magic... lets counter it with Dawn Magic, that broken shit Altmer like to pull that ****s you over inside a space in which time is non-linear
still they turn into ghouls still turns the table, apparently you have never played dragon age if you think the archdemon is the only dragon, allies in dragon age are more powerful then skyrim ones, and Ogres tank elemental spells. Theirs also the grey wardens
Played Origins and II from start to finish. This is a verse battle, mind you. Everything vs Everything. Allies ain't shit in this match and that is a gameplay mechanic by the way. Grey Wardens get nuked by Redguards and their swords And please don't resort to flaming, that thing hurts the forum
Grey wardens beat redguards also if thats the case then dragon age definitely wins. Because they have more then one game I thought it was like dragon age 2 but if its all of them skyrim gets outnumbered and crushed.
The old Gods > daedric princes, they can only be killed by a grey warden anyway.....
Also there's Corypheus, whom enslaved an entire group of Grey Wardens/Dwarves with his power, and was basically a master sorcerer. Plus there's the 2 factions of darkspawn led by the Mother/The Architect, there's armored ogres (normal ogres can tank almost anything), There's High Dragons, Mage armies (College of winterhold doesn't have nearly as many mages imo), Grey Wardens, dwarven/golem armies, etc.
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Elder Scrolls. I'm just willing to bet. When you take it all into account, you have to include Magnus. Even if these Old Gods are more powerful than the Daedra, Magnus is bound to be even more powerful than them still.
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As I said, the old gods can literally only be killed by a grey warden. There's also the ancient tevinter mages (whom tried to usurp the maker), There's legions of dragons, there's the darkspawn and demons (both of which vastly outnumber to armies of the Elder Scrolls).
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It doesn't matter if you only have one way to die when you have no way to win. That's what we call a no limits fallacy anyway, typically banned in these threads to prevent the constant back and forth of no limit spear vs no limit shield type shit.
Dragons in Elder Scrolls are also only killed by Dragonborn. Their soul remains, which is how Alduin brought them back. A no limits thing, again, but I'm hoping this helps me make the point not to underestimate the races of Tamriel.
Anyway, Daedra are some of the most powerful godlike beings in existence, capable of doing just about anything. And the creation story in ES goes that, when Lorkhan tricked the other gods, their divinity was being drained to create the realm of Mundus. When some gods caught on, they left the realm and went back to Aetherius, creating the stars, holes into Aetherius through which the Magicka flows into Nirn. Magnus was the first to leave, retaining the most of his power, which is why the hole he left is the largest, the sun.
There are also scores of things in ES that we don't know anything about. The vast majority of the continent of Akavir, for example. It's apparently home to the Tsaeci snake people, who may or may not be immortal like the dragons, an entire nation of tiger people who's leader found a way to turn himself into a dragon, a nation of "snow demons," hundreds of islands populated by monkey people, the old continents of Aldermis and Atmora, as well as possibly thousands of smaller and larger islands between all of these continents.
Like I said. I don't know Dragon Age, but if that one dragon from a thread with Quanchi was one of their most powerful living beings, the ES verse has the mortal battlefield claimed already, and I'm betting Magnus won't be highly bothered by these Old gods.
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In the ESverse there are swordsmen that can cut atoms apart and create atomic blasts. Mages that can move huge islands. And a dragon that has devoured the world several times.
And no, the Old Gods are not more powerful than the Daedric Princes who can rip huge asteroids out of orbit and devastate continents for the lulz.
Last edited by ares834 on Oct 15th, 2013 at 02:27 AM
Lets discuss some more "Mortal" stuff. I don't want this to become a fight that depends on gods to win. So, in favor of Dragon Age, I think Blood Magic can harness lots of hit power if left in the hand of a skilled magister with many slaves. Enough to one shot many people I guess
Aldmeris doesn't exist and Atmora is a forzen wasteland. There are more powerful beings than Daedra, but they are banned
Last edited by trexalfa on Oct 15th, 2013 at 05:34 AM
I know right? Because of Atmora being frozen did men (except Redguards) come to Tamriel. Aldmeris is a collection of residual memories of the Dawn Era (in which time was non-linear and Men and Mer were et'ada) which remain in Mer and has become a myth about their origin, which they continue to believe to consider themselves superior to Men. All life originated in Mundus originated in Tamriel in TES.