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Ferguson Riots

The way it was explained to me, a kid stole a pack of cigs from this QT, was chased down by cops - got hit, turned around, put his hands up, and was gunned down. They went to that QT, beat up the owners who called the cops, and burned the place down.

They didn't stop there, they broke through windows of shopping stores all up and down the area, I saw everything boarded up.


I actually rode past the QT yesterday; they were protesting "hands up, don't shoot!"

The burned down quick trip had "RIP Mike Mike" and "Snitches get Stitches" on it.

I saw all the boarded up windows across town. They stole everything.

IMO, people up at North County are desparate and looking for a reason to steal. Not as bad as in Illinois, East Saint Louis though. That's the hoodiest hood in Ameirca, Washington Park. Don't **** with North County, definitely don't **** with the East Side. Government abandoned them a long time ago.

The government never did shit for Saint Louis.

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All of the rioters should be arrested and put in jail.


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All of the rioters should be arrested and put in jail.


yes. they are doing nothing productive. they are making this situation much worse


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I used to live there. Still live nearby.

God we are stupid.


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Stupid ass black people. Always thinking past injustices give them the right to act like primitive savages. Don't they realize this only reinforces the kinds of stereotypes that lead to these tragedies? If they were smart, they'd be advocating for a federal law for cops to wear cameras, because that would definitely decrease the rate of these incidents. But just keep rioting, because that's the black thang roll eyes (sarcastic)


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Stupid ass black people. Always thinking past injustices give them the right to act like primitive savages. Don't they realize this only reinforces the kinds of stereotypes that lead to these tragedies? If they were smart, they'd be advocating for a federal law for cops to wear cameras, because that would definitely decrease the rate of these incidents. But just keep rioting, because that's the black thang roll eyes (sarcastic)


While it's not that simple and that post reeks of racism. I do agree that it's retarded and our so called leadership (the black leadership) are too big of pussies to actually combat our issues within the community and the bad that festers in it. And just want to pass the buck


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You Missourians don't know how to ****ing riot. Out West in California, people know how to riot.

1992 Los Angeles Riot:

Length: 6 Days
Buildings Burned: 3,767
Property Damage 1 Billion+
Arrests: 11,000+,
Injuries: 2,000+,
Deaths: 58 (50 Homicides)
Outside sources needed: California Army National Guard, 7th Infantry Division, 1st Marine Division
Police/Troops total: 13,000

Info taken from Wiki


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I'm black, and if we can casually refer to ourselves using a derogatory term meant to denote inferiority, I can make a few statements regarding their ignorance.


As far as I can tell, the problem comes from a predominant culture based upon shallow materialism and superficiality, glorification of crime, and demeaning misogyny, combined with a close minded belief in religion which closes their imagination from the mind-expanding questions of nature and thus dilutes their desire for intelligence. Now as I said, not all African Americans fall under this category, but a arguably majority percentage do, and this reinforces the stereotypes which lead to such police brutality, leaving blacks in a perpetual cycle of violence and ignorance. Thing is, until blacks realize this, we will never truly be in the same social class as whites.


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While I can't argue with all your points, being born into poverty and a culture that treats you like a suspect/criminal due to skin color can't be an easy obstacle to overcome while growing up.


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a suggestion that could rectify a lot of that social pressure.


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Originally posted by Robtard
You Missourians don't know how to ****ing riot. Out West in California, people know how to riot.

1992 Los Angeles Riot:

Length: 6 Days
Buildings Burned: 3,767
Property Damage 1 Billion+
Arrests: 11,000+,
Injuries: 2,000+,
Deaths: 58 (50 Homicides)
Outside sources needed: California Army National Guard, 7th Infantry Division, 1st Marine Division
Police/Troops total: 13,000

Info taken from Wiki
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Originally posted by Lestov16
I'm black, and if we can casually refer to ourselves using a derogatory term meant to denote inferiority, I can make a few statements regarding their ignorance.


As far as I can tell, the problem comes from a predominant culture based upon shallow materialism and superficiality, glorification of crime, and demeaning misogyny, combined with a close minded belief in religion which closes their imagination from the mind-expanding questions of nature and thus dilutes their desire for intelligence. Now as I said, not all African Americans fall under this category, but a arguably majority percentage do, and this reinforces the stereotypes which lead to such police brutality, leaving blacks in a perpetual cycle of violence and ignorance. Thing is, until blacks realize this, we will never truly be in the same social class as whites.



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LA riot as Rob said is legit. All the rest are wanna bee's.

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Originally posted by Lestov16
I'm black, and if we can casually refer to ourselves using a derogatory term meant to denote inferiority, I can make a few statements regarding their ignorance.


As far as I can tell, the problem comes from a predominant culture based upon shallow materialism and superficiality, glorification of crime, and demeaning misogyny, combined with a close minded belief in religion which closes their imagination from the mind-expanding questions of nature and thus dilutes their desire for intelligence. Now as I said, not all African Americans fall under this category, but a arguably majority percentage do, and this reinforces the stereotypes which lead to such police brutality, leaving blacks in a perpetual cycle of violence and ignorance. Thing is, until blacks realize this, we will never truly be in the same social class as whites.


Alot of that is a factor but a lot of this is an effect more so than the problem itself. Except for the misogyny. That shit is a huge separate problem that I have no idea how to combat.


The issue as a whole I'll make a post with my thoughts a little later when I have the time to make the much larger post needed for the topic


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No, **** this. The police gunned down an unarmed kid after heckling him for being black and on the street (yeah, this guy got killed for jaywalking, surely his race had nothing to do with that). The guy did nothing and they murdered him. So **** this spin. These riots are not a function of "black culture gone mad" it's a function of racist ass cops getting away with their power trips as always.


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No, **** this. The police gunned down an unarmed kid after heckling him for being black and on the street (yeah, this guy got killed for jaywalking, surely his race had nothing to do with that). The guy did nothing and they murdered him. So **** this spin. These riots are not a function of "black culture gone mad" it's a function of racist ass cops getting away with their power trips as always.


I agree its ****ed up. But it doesn't excuse burning down the buildings of unaffiliated people and tearing up your own neighborhoods as well as attacking others in no way related.

If they attacked government buildings and stuff like that I'd be all for it. But tearing up and robbing random people and buildings? =/


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I agree its ****ed up. But it doesn't excuse burning down the buildings of unaffiliated people and tearing up your own neighborhoods as well as attacking others in no way related.

If they attacked government buildings and stuff like that I'd be all for it. But tearing up and robbing random people and buildings? =/


Riots are bad. Everyone agrees with that. The structural racism of the US Police is a hundred times worse though, and I will not put up with people making the riots the issue when the real issue is the racism of the people in power.


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Riots are bad. The structural racism of the US Police is a hundred times worse though, and I will not put up with people making the riots the issue when the real issue is the racism of the people in power.


The riots are an issue that need to be dealt with and not glossed over. Our reactions to those uninvolved in every situation needs to be dealt with too. Your right, there are issues with Us police But it is in no way current worse then the problems in the black community that are self inflicted And our refusal to deal with it just makes it get worse and worse and causes more and more issues to happen.

The cops used to be worse, but that isn't the case now. And we need to deal with both them and our own violence and destruction of our community. Fighting the institution will be meaningless if we have no home to go back to.


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I can somewhat understand the rioting as a means to let out feelings and get a point across over an injustice, that 'the people' will not stand by while yet another of their own is trampled by a system that is supposed to protect them. Which is what the initial few hours of the 1992 LA riot were.

But how do you explain and dismiss the looting? How is stealing a television a form of protest against an injustice?


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I can somewhat understand the rioting as a means to let out feelings and get a point across over an injustice, that 'the people' will not stand by while yet another of their own is trampled by a system that is supposed to protect them. Which is what the initial few hours of the 1992 LA riot were.

But how do you explain and dismiss the looting? How is stealing a television a form of protest against an injustice?


I'd get it to if they were tearing down the very places that don't harm them and that they do need. And for the stealing, it's the ever present criminal element that we don't want to face and deal with. This si the time to face it, we need to take both our own community and the police head on. Not give them an excuse to act worse and blame it on the white man because we want to gloss over their actions.


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