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14 year old boy makes a clock - Is arrested by Police

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14-year-old Ahmed Mohamed arrested for bringing homemade clock to school

Police in Texas have arrested a 14-year-old boy for building a clock. Ahmed Mohamed, who lives in Irving and has a keen interest in robotics and engineering, put the device together on Sunday night. When he took it to school the next day, he was pulled out of class, interviewed by police officers, and taken in handcuffs to juvenile detention, after being told by teachers that his creation looked like a bomb.

Ahmed told The Dallas Morning News that he showed his clock — a simple device, created from a circuit board and a power supply wired to a digital display, all strapped inside a case with a tiger hologram on the front — to his engineering teacher first, who advised him not to show any other staff members at MacArthur High School. He originally kept it in his bag during English class, but his teacher heard it beep during the lesson — when Ahmed showed her his home-made clock at the end of class, she took it away from him. In sixth period, the school principal came for Ahmed with a police officer in tow, arresting him and marching him out of school. The schoolboy says he was interrogated by five officers, who asked why he was trying to make a bomb, and was threatened with expulsion by his Principal unless he made a written statement.


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Mohamed Elhassan Mohamed, Ahmed's father, says his child suffered because of prejudice against Muslims. "Because his name is Mohamed and because of September 11th," Mohamed told The Dallas Morning News, "I think my son got mistreated." The Council on American-Islamic Relations is already investigating Ahmed's case, with Alia Salem, the director of the council's North Texas chapter, saying that it seemed "pretty egregious."


This is spot on. This is exactly what racists (like some people on this board) cause, a culture where minorities are attacked and dissuaded, even if they are exceptionally talented and gifted.


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He's clearly a terrorerrorismist.


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Before this thread gets...heated, let me (as a minority) just say:

I see the school administration's point.
Do i feel bad for the kid? Yeah. But, fact is, 9/11 did happen, and a certain type of people, were responsible.
To completely ignore this in favor of being PC is ridiculous.
This Alia Salem person used the word "egregious" to describe the handling of the situation.
I submit the word "precedent", to describe the likelihood of the situation possibly being a real threat.

Also, given the history of violence in schools across the country that have been happening for years, now, erring on the side of caution?
Again, i see the point.


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Originally posted by riv6672
Before this thread gets...heated, let me (as a minority) just say:

I see the school administration's point.
Do i feel bad for the kid? Yeah. But, fact is, 9/11 did happen, and a certain type of people, were responsible.
To completely ignore this in favor of being PC is ridiculous.
This Alia Salem person used the word "egregious" to describe the handling of the situation.
I submit the word "precedent", to describe the likelihood of the situation possibly being a real threat.

Also, given the history of violence in schools across the country that have been happening for years, now, erring on the side of caution?
Again, i see the point.


By that same logic, we shouldn't allow the Japanese to fly planes in fear of another Pearl Harbor.


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I expected that kind of response. All good. Just wanted to weigh in.


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Originally posted by riv6672
Before this thread gets...heated, let me (as a minority) just say:

I see the school administration's point.
Do i feel bad for the kid? Yeah. But, fact is, 9/11 did happen, and a certain type of people, were responsible.
To completely ignore this in favor of being PC is ridiculous.
This Alia Salem person used the word "egregious" to describe the handling of the situation.
I submit the word "precedent", to describe the likelihood of the situation possibly being a real threat.

Also, given the history of violence in schools across the country that have been happening for years, now, erring on the side of caution?
Again, i see the point.


Odd. Don't recall the same reaction when this happened
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There's definitely people who should be arrested here, but it's not the kid.


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This is spot on. This is exactly what racists (like some people on this board) cause, a culture where minorities are attacked and dissuaded, even if they are exceptionally talented and gifted.

This is what we call a ridiculous emotional response to the situation. I'm wondering, do you just scream "racist" at the first site of impropriety, or do you think about what that word means? I'm surprised you haven't called someone racist for not like Obama. Furthermore, calling it a "culture" as opposed to an exception to the norm is intellectually dishonest.

Yes, the school went overboard, but to start screaming "racism" is silly.

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By that same logic, we shouldn't allow the Japanese to fly planes in fear of another Pearl Harbor.

By the same logic, we don't allow Germany a standing army above a certain amount of recruits.. Oh wait, we still don't and for good reason.


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Better safe than sorry when it comes to members of a death cult.


Ok while Bardock is on one sensitive extreme, I don't really believe "better safe than sorry" applies to this case.


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Ok while Bardock is on one sensitive extreme, I don't really believe "better safe than sorry" applies to this case.

When a member of a stone age death cult known for making bombs starts putting wires together in a school, you call the cops.

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This is what we call a ridiculous emotional response to the situation. I'm wondering, do you just scream "racist" at the first site of impropriety, or do you think about what that word means? I'm surprised you haven't called someone racist for not like Obama. Furthermore, calling it a "culture" as opposed to an exception to the norm is intellectually dishonest.

Yes, the school went overboard, but to start screaming "racism" is silly.

What else could you call it?

I think your post comes off as an emotional response to claims of racism, which is telling.


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What else could you call it?

I think your post comes off as an emotional response to claims of racism, which is telling.


That's nice. I think your response is an emotional one in response to a "racism" claim. See what I did there?


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That's nice. I think your response is an emotional one in response to a "racism" claim. See what I did there?

I see you made a non-post that avoids the fact that you came into this thread assuming you were being called a racist and got miffed over it. But I'm not really interested into getting into one of these inevitably semantic arguments with you, so I'll let you think you won or something.


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As a minority myself, I don't really see this as "racist". Just a silly and tragic knee jerk reaction borne from paranioa. But I'd rather this happened once in a while than ppl from a school not report things when they are worried about their student's safety because "racism!!11!one".

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I see you made a non-post that avoids the fact that you came into this thread assuming you were being called a racist and got miffed over it. But I'm not really interested into getting into one of these inevitably semantic arguments with you, so I'll let you think you won or something.


I see you made your usual mistake of being overly presumptuous and making things up in your mind that haven't really happened, so i'll do what I usually do and help out your reading comprehension skills. I'm not sure where you assumed I was being called a racist or where "I" was even involved in the discussion. I simply mentioned to bardock that screaming "racism" seems to be the go to thing for the emotional left and that he's done it on more than one occasion. I think it would serve you well to read before posting next time.


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That's nice. I think your response is an emotional one in response to a "racism" claim. See what I did there?


It did not have any particular marks of emotion though.

Basically your argument of symetry fails at being symetrical. I don't even understand why people want to use arguments of symetry here in KMC, almost no argument is symetrical in the true world (except entirely random claims, which are rarely what people mean to begin with).

Edit: Did you originally meant Bardock when you said emotional? He actually did seem so, so if it was the case, never mind my comment.


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It did not have any particular marks of emotion though.

Basically your argument of symetry fails at being symetrical. I don't even understand why people want to use arguments of symetry here in KMC, almost no argument is symetrical in the true world (except entirely random claims, which are rarely what people mean to begin with).

Edit: Did you originally meant Bardock when you said emotional? He actually did seem so, so if it was the case, never mind my comment.


Yes, my original comment was for Bardock. My response to OV was pretty much his trolling response to me, for the same effect.


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As a minority myself, I don't really see this as "racist". Just a silly and tragic knee jerk reaction borne from paranioa. But I'd rather this happened once in a while than ppl from a school not report things when they are worried about their student's safety because "racism!!11!one".



It's not even just the reporting- which would've been very unlikely had he been a different race- it's the follow up once they found it out wasn't a bomb. At that point the kid should've gotten apologies.


This is really darn racist.


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Yes, the school went overboard, but to start screaming "racism" is silly.



A kid of an ethnic group most accused of a stereotype- but very obviously not involved in the act- gets first reported, and then has the authorities actually follow-through on the report, and continue action against the kid.


To insist it's not racism is really stretching it.


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