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The_Dog_of_War
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Captain Marvel (DC) & Alan Scott vs. Gladiator & Vulcan

Rules/Stipulations:

•CIS off
•No prep time
•No BFR
•DC team is Pre-New 52
•Alan Scott doesn't have the full power of the Starheart
•Both teams are going all out
•Winner by KO or incapacitation
•Fight takes place on Chandilar

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MrMind
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Alan Scott solos

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beatboks
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I dont see Alan Soloing.
I think team 1 wins but Vulcan has good feats of manipulating magic energy IIRC and will give Alan a good fight.

Even if Glads is full confidence I see him as having a hard fight vs Billy and hes not often full confidence

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DC wins unless Vulcan can dominate Alan. If so, Marvel takes it. Gladiator should be able to defeat Shazam imo.

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Philosophía
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Anybody on team 1 beats anybody on team 2.

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leonidas
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i'm not sure about that....vulcan is a bad match for alan imo, and potentially for billy if lightning is brought to bear. i'd take marvel here.

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i'm not sure about that....vulcan is a bad match for alan imo, and potentially for billy if lightning is brought to bear. i'd take marvel here.

Just because Vulcan drained Warlock doesn't mean he can drain Alan.

Havok simply beat the shit out of him once he was amped on a portion of a star. Alan would do worse.

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leonidas
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well, you WERE on a roll..... there's really no reason he wouldn't drain or simply manipulate alan's energy.

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abhilegend
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well, you WERE on a roll..... there's really no reason he wouldn't drain or simply manipulate alan's energy.

Because Alan is simply too powerful. Only his willpower contains energy enough to destroy entire solar system.

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Warlock is hardly at that level. You're really following a no limit fallacy here.

But say Vulcan vs Silver Surfer? Vulcan vs Thanos? Can he drain them?

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leonidas
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if ss fought the way he normally does with blasts, he'd be in for a surprise. ss has shown vulnerability to draining as well, but his more exotic powers don't require direct energy blasts. he'd likely ko vulcan with a board attack to the back of the head or something. fighting him with straight up energy would not go well though. as for thanos--he's something different. i doubt he'd be blasting vulcan into unconsciousness and he could simply power through blasts and i don't think messing with the electricity in thanos's brain would do much either.

alan would literally be attacking with energy constructs. so no, i don't see that being effective--at all--against vulcan. we saw what he did against the eldest and i see no reason he couldn't do the same to alan, at least most of the time. he could also simply mess with the chemistry in alan's brain in a number of ways as well. his shields wouldn't mean much against vulcan imo.

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Alan solos.

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abhilegend
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if ss fought the way he normally does with blasts, he'd be in for a surprise. ss has shown vulnerability to draining as well, but his more exotic powers don't require direct energy blasts.

Seriously?
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he'd likely ko vulcan with a board attack to the back of the head or something. fighting him with straight up energy would not go well though.

Unless you're Havok. Or Black Bolt.
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as for thanos--he's something different. i doubt he'd be blasting vulcan into unconsciousness and he could simply power through blasts and i don't think messing with the electricity in thanos's brain would do much either.

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I like how Thanos or Surfer get a pass here.

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alan would literally be attacking with energy constructs. so no, i don't see that being effective--at all--against vulcan. we saw what he did against the eldest and i see no reason he couldn't do the same to alan, at least most of the time. he could also simply mess with the chemistry in alan's brain in a number of ways as well. his shields wouldn't mean much against vulcan imo.

Yeah, except Alan doesn't has a human body or brain, he is simply green flame given a body.

Vulcan simply broke the link of Eldest. Here is Havok not having much effect on Vulcan.

http://imgur.com/a/OpKRO

Oh right, he straight up beat the shit out of Vulcan.

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I legitimately find it so weird how energy manipulators/absorbers get a no-limits label attached to them. Not everybody is Mjolnir. It's like saying somebody has super-strength, so that means he is as strong as he needs to be.

Excluding Havok being too powerful to overpower with energy control -- what feats does Vulcan have that overpowers Alan's will [which, evidently, controls his constructs]?

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abhilegend
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Originally posted by Philosophía
I legitimately find it so weird how energy manipulators/absorbers get a no-limits label attached to them. Not everybody is Mjolnir. It's like saying somebody has super-strength, so that means he is as strong as he needs to be.

Excluding Havok being too powerful to overpower with energy control -- what feats does Vulcan have that overpowers Alan's will [which, evidently, controls his constructs]?

He absorbed Warlock, that's it. Apparently that gives him carte blanche on everyone. Except marvel characters.

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If anything, Green Lanterns - whose very will control everything they create in its entirety - would be harder to drain than Surfer/etc.

You legitimately have to argue that in a non-PIS environment their will gets overpowered so that they can't hold their constructs. [something Damborg should have argued.....lol]

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People seriously think CM beats Gladiator???!

His track record against peers isn't that good.

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abhilegend
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Even rookie GLs can drain the power back.

https://readcomiconline.to/Comic/Ju...ssue-5?id=89391

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lol what you mean?
CA has very little showings. the guy routinely ties with Superman, i mean if you wanna scale of their fights than by all means

Jul 23rd, 2019 06:17 PM

abhilegend
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lol what you mean?
CA has very little showings. the guy routinely ties with Superman, i mean if you wanna scale of their fights than by all means

Wut?