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Episode 14: Defenders of Peace
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Episode 13: Defenders of Peace

This is the first time I liked the second part of a 2-fer less than the first. sad


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Took a while for the thread

Nice episode, I love Aayla's saber style. Didn't get why they let so many droids through the shield though, Ahsoka was just running past half of them to get inside.....would have been easier to just kill them while she was there.

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About "killing droids": You can't kill something that isn't alive, can you?

"We will not fight them at all. We would rather die than to kill others." That's what the leader of the Lurmen said. My point is: they could have fought the droids and destroyed them. Destroying a droid isn't killing.


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Well that is the whole thing Lucas used...the Jedi "aren't" betraying their beliefs because they're hacking apart inanimate objects. Like in ROTS when all the Nemoidian crew can run around but the Jedi will hack apart droids.

Point is, the Lurmen gave in. Star Wars teaches you to sacrifice your ideals. They're kind of the anti-Nahdar...he saw the game had changed and succumbed to it and died....the Lurmen succumbed and lived.


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Then, in the OT, we have stormies gunned down left and right, so really, killing things is OK as long as you think they're bad....

I think Lucas needs a logic upgrade....


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Actually that reasoning was just due to the on-screen violence problem of cutting organic things up all the time. There was no moral implication to it, and hence no logical issue.


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Originally posted by Hybris
About "killing droids": You can't kill something that isn't alive, can you?

"We will not fight them at all. We would rather die than to kill others." That's what the leader of the Lurmen said. My point is: they could have fought the droids and destroyed them. Destroying a droid isn't killing.


While the wording is suspect; as you said, they'd be destroying machines adn not living creatures, I think the point was that they're a peaceful race and completely against all violence, ie They/Lucas used Ghandi when making this race.


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Indeed, the Lemur Leader's point was that the Lurmen were an entirely peaceful race. That means they did not resort to violence for any reason, even against non-living things such as the droids.

The 'infiltrate the base and kill the droids to take the ship' part was done really well, I thought. No really huge complaints about this episode.


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I liked it too

I hear episode 15 is the best so far this season....

..according to IGN


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#15 is good, probably not the best.

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I still want the Ordo Review for this one. Also, the thread title said it was the 13th episode, edited it for Ordo.


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Although killing a droid is not really killing, they would be still taking part in a war that did kill billions. I believe that is what the leader meant.


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Or even just the act of violence. Even if a droid is not alive, they would still be making violent efforts to stop it from functioning.


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Episode 16 - WHAT THE ****? A nice episode, too-short-lightsaber-battle (better than nothing), then it sets up for a massive battle against 1000 battle droids.......then the episode finishes. Its not even a 2 parter so we wont get to see the battle.



Oh and #17 has Jar Jar again. I'm seriously pissed off now.

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16 just was a short introduction to the clone wars movie (the war over Christophisis) I guess.

What bothered me most was that the episode made it seem as if Ventress is skilled enough to engage both Skywalker and Kenobi and hold her own...


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Well if you take EU into account... she really is until the near end of the war. In the novels her kill count at the end of war included 17 Jedi, four of them masters.


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Well if you take EU into account... she really is until the near end of the war. In the novels her kill count at the end of war included 17 Jedi, four of them masters.


she was killed?

I've only read Obsession (GN) and she didn't die, though she made it look that way...


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quote: (post)
Originally posted by Hybris
16 just was a short introduction to the clone wars movie (the war over Christophisis) I guess.



Serious? Talk about continuity no expression

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Serious? Talk about continuity no expression


Well there's a fews things that make it obvious:

- The introduction of the episode stating that the inhabitants of Christophsis called the Jedi for help.
- No Ahsoka.
- Short appearence of the little fat CIS general Whorm Loathsom.
- The only weapons they were able to save from being destroyed by the traitor were the heavy canons (essential in the first part of the movie)
- and many many many more


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she was killed?

I've only read Obsession (GN) and she didn't die, though she made it look that way...


Where did I say she was killed?


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