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Episode 34 - The Mandalore Plot
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Dark Exile
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Yep..
I wasnt really prepared for the black lightsaber...
Would have been nice if they explained it better. It just, looked weird, wasnt used to it. Maybe it will grow on me though.

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Originally posted by S_D_J

I played KOTOR but that's 1000 years before the movies... a lot can change in that time. no to mention that is a pre-Clone Wars EU game.


More like 4000 years before, but yes a lot can change. Look at the tech jump from episodes 1-3 to 4-6.

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Originally posted by Ordo
Oh, the scene is an apperation now. Weren't there only 2 scenes where Kenobi fought the Mandos?


No. There is one brief fight where he loses, and then the entire rest of the episode where he completely dominates.

See, you often have this problem that you simply cannot make a logical analysis of something, which very badly affects your critical qualities.

I would very condfidently submit that the fact that the one moment where the commandos are good enough to shoot a sabre out of Obi-Wan's hand and capture him is completely at odds with everything else presented in the story is exceedingly obvious. This is simple dramatic inconsistency, and hence a valid comment. You can either claim that they are THAT good- in which case, how come he so easily beat them up for the rest of the sotrY? Or you can claim that they are not that good, in which case the sabre-shooting is very weird. These are the only two available choices.

It ia also obvious that the situation is the latter one- of course they are not THAT good, not just the faceless commandos. Basic rule of drama aside from anything else- they may be better than droids, but the hero protagonist is not going to have serious trouble unless outnumbered or fighting an enemy leader. This is how it will be. The sabre shooting will remain the odd thing out.

Honestly, you try to argue the most ridiculous things. Also, mockery works better when your position is not so obviously incrrect.


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Thats ok. I know recognizing evidenced arguments is difficult for some people. I dont really hold them to it. Its not their fault.

Anyway, in a series where a couple hits from a starfighter can destroy a cruiser, I tend to take the overexaggeration approach. Like most cartoons, when they good guys are winning, they are kicking butt. Then they are losing, they are getting their butts kicked. I think Clone Wars generally exemplifies that pretty well.

Its a simple dichotomy that makes it very easy for children to understand. It doesn't deal with grey areas or other pesky inconveniences that require thought.


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Originally posted by Dark Exile
More like 4000 years before, but yes a lot can change. Look at the tech jump from episodes 1-3 to 4-6.


Who's counting? stick out tongue

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Originally posted by Robtard
Kenobi not instantly destroying the leader who went at him with a lightsabre was annoying to me. Sabre-dueling, it's just what Jedi do.


He's not supposed to destroy them, but apprehend them


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Originally posted by Ordo
Thats ok. I know recognizing evidenced arguments is difficult for some people. I dont really hold them to it. Its not their fault.

Anyway, in a series where a couple hits from a starfighter can destroy a cruiser, I tend to take the overexaggeration approach. Like most cartoons, when they good guys are winning, they are kicking butt. Then they are losing, they are getting their butts kicked. I think Clone Wars generally exemplifies that pretty well.

Its a simple dichotomy that makes it very easy for children to understand. It doesn't deal with grey areas or other pesky inconveniences that require thought.


Looks like I missed this! Not much to miss of course; your first line is just meaningless drivel and then the rest is an irrelevant non sequitur (there is no logical link between it being a dichotomy and it being easy to understand; you need to understand how to use language better if you feel otherwise). Dramatic inconsistency is what it is and is a valid criticism for any fiction, for children or otherwise. Other Clone Wars episodes are not inconsistent in this way; they are not criticised for it. The ones that makes these errors, I will pick them up on it.


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THe makers do seem to take the mickey out o SW lore and logic though... if there's any left.


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THe makers do seem to take the mickey out o SW lore and logic though... if there's any left.


There never was much anyway stick out tongue


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Well, there was... but the more SW we got, the more diluted it got. Now it's all kinda messy.


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