If it sent tremors then wouldn't Vader have sensed that Luke was in the falcon when they were coming towards the death star...or when Luke was using the force to blow up the death star. He sensed obi wan but thats cause they had known each other for so long I'm guessing, they knew of each others presence.
Perhaps. But Luke was still only starting out in the Force. He did one trick. OB1 presence would prolly have overshadowed Luke's by far. Perhaps when OB1 had not been there, Luke may have stood out.
I'm not sure, I mean Vader didn't sense Luke being told to use the force when Obi-Wan was talking to him, another puzzling situation since that probably took quite a bit of force training for obi wan to do.
Interesting that Vader and the emperor knew Luke was training and yet had no idea where to look. So Luke could have trained earlier, they would have felt it sure but I doubt it's like a homing beacon
The entire premise of your post does not take into account that Yoda seemed to hid just fine, no problem. The Jedi genocide actually does not mean anything for the premise of this thread's topic.
Meaning, they could have trained Luke from the very beginning Infant rather than a 5-7 years old we see.
And here is the correct answer to the thread's question.
Sleep-teaching?
Also, Luke was a naturally gifted force users. IMO, he counts as a "genius" among the force users. I think it's more likely that he just figured out that he had TK powers.
That's 20/20 hindsight, because we've seen Return Of The Jedi. We're talking about what Yoda and Obi Wan feared in TESB - what would happen if Luke challenged Vader & The Emperor before he was ready. He failed a test in the Dagobath cave, which foretold that he could become someone like Vader in the future, if his focus & training weren't right.
Even by the climax of ROTJ, he was teetering on the edge, being pulled by fear for Leia's future - just like Anakin was on the brink in ROTS out of concern for Padme. Anakin fell, while Luke just managed to pull back.
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Yoda hid on a planet that wasn't listed on any charts, and likely wasn't doing anything Jed-wise to attract attention. Just like Obi Wan came to be known as a strange old hermit on Tatooine, rather than a retired Jedi master.
And if you see what I've written earlier, it's likely Yoda and Obi Wan were putting more into looking to find surviving Jedi from the purge, rather than trying to start a newly secret Jedi academy. But these are all questions I imagine will be explored in the live action series to come; the secret resistance started by Bail Organa and Mon Mothma.
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Ah well that's easy, cause Luke was just starting to use the force so he would have a very small signature unlike obi-wan who vader had been around for 20 years. I would question more, why couldn't the death star scan for life forms instead of bringing a scanning crew aboard. especially if a star destroyer can scan for life forms.
You must have missed the post where I said that Luke beat Vader with anger when Vader mentioned turning Leia to the dark side. And Luke did reject the dark side in ESB, vader tried to turn him so that they could both take down the emperor and rule the galaxy as father and son. He decided to jump rather than turn to the dark side. Yeah, he nearly turned to dark side but the fact still remains that he didn't turn.
Yeah, but that doesn't mean Yoda & Obi Wan weren't rightfully worried in TESB that it could go wrong for Luke in the crucial moment. The potential was there. You can't just say "Why were they so worried about Luke turning to the dark side? I saw Return Of The Jedi, and he didn't turn."
One major difference between Anakin & Luke, is that Anakin had killed people using the force in anger & in fear. His years of intensive Jedi training may have helped him get over the incident with the Sandpeople (plus, he was remorseful), but by the time he aided in the death of Mace Windu, he had gone too far and fallen to Palpatine's influence.
If Luke had kept going and killed Darth Vader in ROTJ rather than just sever one of his hands, he was throughly consumned by anger & fear in that moment that he could have fallen the same way. But Palpatine's goading made him pause, and he caught himself just in time.
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Well, this is an old debate. I still contend most strongly that you cannot sense another person's force power and this never happened at any point in the films. Vader's comment in the trench run was just a testament to the skill of his target; it was not meant literally.
He senses Obi-Wan because he knows him. Sensing his presence is like seeing his face.
Why was Luke not taught? Broadly- it just wasn't the time.
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Wasn't there something about the planet also having some sort of "anti-force" thing going on, which prevented force-detection?
So there's going to be a live-action show, after all, eh? I haven't been keeping up, as of late..so I'm out of the loop.
Interesting take on that. I actually cannot find fault with it as your point is further proven in the Case of Luke being able to detect and then communicate with Leia towards the end of ESB. In other words, it wouldn't have worked had he not known Leia really well. This is what I've thought since a kid about that whole telepathic communication scene.
But he does sense the Force around Luke during the trench run. Plus in ESB both the Emperor and Vader link the tremor in the Force with Luke... So it does seem to go beyond simply sensing a presence of someone you know.
But I don't think Force users light up in the universe like little candles...
Yup, and with regard to the other post about yoda hiding on Dagobah, i think he was able to do that because of all the lifeforms on the planet that would sheild his signature.