There are plenty of examples on wookieepedia that I will never consider canon, yet, a lot of staff is described as it is in books and it is still better, than naked speculation like "I beleive it was his midi manipulation that gave him immortality".
Nihilus wasn't "alive" in the traditional sense. He was a spirit bound to his mask who "ate" force energy to stay in this world. That much is explained in the game.
And Vitiate didn't use midichlorian manipulation. He used Sith Magic to drain the Force Essence of his home planet and all it's inhabitants, and transfer it to himself, turning him immortal.
you guys keep saying the same thing but im not seeing any quotes for your asserions guys.
if force drain give immortality then why did not palpatine or nihilus get immortality?vitiate was the ony sith to be immortal....and plagueis was obsessed with immortality and sought to master the midis, i didnt see him trying to drain anybody
Read the comics and books with Vitiate in them. Play the game.
He didn't simply use the force technique force drain. He used ancient sith magic to drain the force from an entire planet and it's people, then transferred it into his being, making him immortal. He killed all the Sith Lords and everybody on Nathema and left it lifeless.
I'm not making this up. Just read the books and comics. I'm not gonna go searching for quotes and panels when it's proven canon and even mentioned in The Old Republic MMO.
If you made a claim, you are obligated by the common law of Man and Beast to do so, regardless of whatever tedium or difficulty you may face in procuring the evidence you seek.
Scourge correctly assuming that Vitiate was "feeding" on the life energy of the people he absorbed on Nathema from the Sith Magic Ritual to make himself immortal. He also had enough power to bestow immortality upon Scourge.
Well, they prolonged their life. Nihilus' entity like broken cell phone was burning energy too fast. Palpatine's power, also, was too destructive to be contained in his body. It's just Vitiate came up with arcane ritual that allowed him to consume life on much bigger scale.
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I wonder who gives a damn about your claim to nonexistant fame.
Ah. And your proof for that statement would be where exactly?
You see. I don't want to contradict that idea exacty, because I have no hard evidence myself, but the notion, that Nihilus would continue consuming force energies until all live in the Galaxy had vanished - uttered multiple times during KotoR II - would indicate, that his life would be prolonged to a certain extend in order to make that happen. I doubt he could have visited / drained all 12 million inhabited star systems in the SW Galaxy in the lifetime of a regular human. Even if he can drain a complete system and travel to the next one in one hour, it would still take more than 1300 years to get the job done...
Given our rather limited understanding of the power of the Force, I'm under the impression once again, that you're making absolute statements, where they shouldn't be made. We have no idea, how exactly the Ancient Sith lords did prolong their lifespans. We can just speculate, what they did exactly. Yet we have seen that Simus was capable of surviving as a freaking head in a jar, and I don't seem him doing much midichlorian manipulation in that shape. Also, if one sees "life" as a process of production / consumation of energy, it seems to be reasonable that somebody who gets a huge boost of (life) energy by draining an entire planet, would have his lifetime extended by such an action.
Apparently he had mastery over midichlorians, yet was still not able to live forever. Neither was Sidious. And how would Plagueis know, what said mastery over midichlorians would allow him to do, provided that nobody has ever made it as far in the field as he himself?
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The biggest and most accurate source of Star Wars info out there would be the actual source material. Everybody can edit Wookiepedia articles. There was a time around here, where we demonstrated that fact rather persuasively, by generating an own (SW) character page for every active member of the SW versus forum.
Wookiepedia is a nice help, if you want to get some information on a SW topic you have never dealt with before but it certainly can't act as substitute for the lecture of the actual source material - especially not in context of arguing in a SW versus forum with a bunch of SW nerds.
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Nihilus didn't even have a physical body in Kotor II. His power consumed him and he was forced to possess his armor. So I guess it did make him immortal in a sense.
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