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Physically, RoT. Overall, DoE. In DoE he was near unstoppable.
Yoda will have to pull some crazy crap to take him out with his orbalisks. Though his particular Ataru usage will probably assist him, as it encouages headshots due to the proximity.
Orbalisks give Bane an unfair advantage, IMO. They have nothing to do with ability, strength, skill, or intelligence. It's just some shields protecting him from harm.
Question. Could lightsaber damage Obralisk at least slightly? Or were there vulnerable points like with Vonduun crab armor?
Even if there is no weak points, Luke, Jacen and Jaina still could cut through Slayer's armor.
But even if it is possible to cut through Obralisk, Yoda overwhelms with speed and series of light strikes, not strength. Because of his physical size and fact that most of his attacks are performed in air (which reduces impact of his strikes even farther), he simply wouldn't be able to cut through armor.
^Yoda doesn't have to cut through the Orbalisks though.
All he has to do is to aim for Bane's wrists or head, and due to his agility, speed and unparalled proficiency with a lightsaber, he wins in a saber battle.
Moreover, given how Yoda performed against more powerful Sith Lord than Bane, I am inclined to say he wins here in both scenarios.
The Grandmaster wins firmly against PoD Bane and emerges victorious after an extremaly close fight with RoT Bane.
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Last edited by axel_jovan on May 28th, 2012 at 06:16 PM
Orbalisks are basically immune to lightsabers. Though, as jovan pointed out, there is a weak point in the armor: the neck and the wrists. It is basically the only way to defeat Bane in a saber duel. If Yoda is able to uncover these weak points somehow, he might've a chance against RoT Bane, but if he doesn't, he most likely won't be able to defeat him. In a saber duel, that is. All-out... It's a whole different story. Not sure how it would turn out.
Against PoD Bane, I agree. Yoda wins comfortably in both scenarios.
It was a joke. By that I mean that Yoda has no upper body, he only comes up to Bane's feet and thighes. So while Yoda cna only attack the head, Bane can only attack the area where usually there are feet and elgs because yoda has nbo upper body. So they both have same amount of body showing, it just where bane has armouryoda has invisible upper body. lol...
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And actually, what you say is flawed. Yoda does not only attack the head. In fact, thanks to his superior speed, agility, and his size, he can attack an opponent from almost any angle.
You don't see Yoda attacking only Dooku's head in this scene against Dooku, do you?
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The wrists really arent valid as a hit spot, because he WAS hit there, but the orbalisks deflected the saber enough that it didn't cut his hand off, and they healed it back to normal in like, a second, tops. The only way to win is through instant and total decapitation.
The point is not that Yoda tends to attack the head, but that Bane is only vulnerable on his head. The hit-box area is not nearly as large for Bane as it is for most combatants. Thus, Bane's only valid hit points are his head and wrists; uniquely, Yoda has a similar advantage. Yoda can only be harmed with strikes aimed at a region traditionally holding the ankles of an opponent, which is hardly a conventional or convenient target.
Overall, I don't think that Yoda would win this battle. We have seen that he quickly becomes fatigued, in AotC as well as RotS. In each of those cases, his Force Valor overcomes the limitations of the flesh in the short term against physically average opponents. Bane is a much more physical combatant than Dooku (or Sidious!) and would therefore tire Yoda even more quickly. Furthermore, the two have shown relative parity w/r/t lightsaber skills. The battle will be decided by mastery of the Force, be it in physical augmentation or otherwise.
In the case of a more arcane duel, I suspect that Yoda would be on more even footing. While we haven't seen many obscure techniques from the Grand master, he's had hundreds of years to master every facet of the Jedi teachings. Bane, despite his high learning speed and access to undeniably vast stores of Force knowledge, has an admitted deficiency in the one area Yoda is likely to have a deficiency: Sith Sorcery.
Bane, then, has a particular advantage in the physical realm and fights on roughly even terms within the Force. That sounds like the recipe for a dead Jedi and a victorious mountain of man-meat.
JESUS, I KNOW. By that post I meant that he may also be able to find the weak point in Bane's wrists, unlike other Jedi ... Maybe you misinterpreted what I meant thanks to what I said about Dooku ... I should've explained myself better.
You make good points, though. It would be an interesting duel.
May 28th, 2012 02:15 AM
By that I mean that Yoda has no upper body, he only comes up to Bane's feet and thighes. So while Yoda cna only attack the head, Bane can only attack the area where usually there are feet and elgs because yoda has nbo upper body. So they both have same amount of body showing, it just where bane has armouryoda has invisible upper body. lol...
