Darth Nihilus and Darth Traya - vs - DE Sidious and DE Luke
Versus
Time and space have whisked two teams of Sith warriors to a neutral Dark side location in the universe.
Luke Skywalker has fully accepted and embraced his tutalge as a Sith Lord and he and Darth Sidious, in a reborn clone body, stand ready to defend their claim to the mantle of the Rule of Two.
Darth Nihilus has seen use in accepting an alliance with Darth Traya - and both see the other Sith duo as potentially-agitating thorns in their plan for the destruction of the galaxy.
Nihilus and Traya seek to destroy all life in the universe.
Palpatine and Luke want to rule over it.
Both team members stand 10 feet apart - facing the opposing couple, 20 Feet away.
Who will win, in this ultimate battle of Sith teacher/pupil couplings?
Setting:Dxun, Jungle Clearing.
Which Sith Master/Student Team, are the superior force?
__________________ There are no contests in the Art of Peace. A true warrior is invincible because he or she contests with nothing. Defeat means to defeat the mind of contention that we harbor within.
- Morihei Ueshiba
"...But sometimes, the only way to stop evil is not with good. You must confront it with another kind of evil..."
__________________ There are no contests in the Art of Peace. A true warrior is invincible because he or she contests with nothing. Defeat means to defeat the mind of contention that we harbor within.
- Morihei Ueshiba
Registered: May 2010
Location: No clue. Looks.... Blue?
With the Force.
Seriously, language isn't a barrier, not mentally.
Besides, Nihilus knows Basic. And the connections to the languages are therefore in his head. Sidious could read those and understand Nihilus' speech.
It would still be like Emma Frost trying to mind control The Living Tribunal. Plus Nihilis has no physical brain for Palpatine to work with. How does Palpatine even find his thoughts? he ha snever come across someone whos thoughts are located in their armour.
It more likely Niihlus contorl palpatine, but he doesn;t need to.
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Erm.. you is the one who is clearly trolling. I made valid points and you insult me. Facto of the matter is that Nihilus is basically a God of a compeltely different kind of existence to the human Sidious, and he's also far more powerful. You haven't made a veyr good argument why palpatine will just easily control him.
Nihilus should be able to solo this, and Kreia would be able to take Luke out of the fight probably anyway, who by Dark Empire is still not too powerful.
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The KotOR Campaign Guide referred to Nihilus's plot against Traya as a "calculated [betrayal/double cross {?}]" and his machinations regarding Vaklu, Tobin, the remnants of the Jedi order, et al. all indicate the presence of a fully functioning and rather capable intellect, if not literal brain tissue.
Just another example of where Nihilus has been exaggerated.
__________________ There are no contests in the Art of Peace. A true warrior is invincible because he or she contests with nothing. Defeat means to defeat the mind of contention that we harbor within.
- Morihei Ueshiba
Registered: May 2010
Location: No clue. Looks.... Blue?
Alright then, I will explain it.
Nihilus was human. Now he is a dark force apparition bound to the physical armor.
Language when it comes to the Force is not a limitation. Neither is a physical brain. In this case, Palpatine would subdue Nihilus' will, using subtle machinations and Dun Moch. DE Sidious has been stated to be the most powerful Sith Lord to exist. (somebody else will have to get the source, I can't remember EXACTLY where it came from, and I am procrastinating from school work for this) While yes, its touted about, DE Sidious is easily more powerful. Giga-drain or no, Nihilus is PROBABLYthe weakest one here in terms of mastery and such. Luke comes next, but he makes up for it by being the strongest with the Force, because he is Luke (and his POWER in the Force never changed Just his mastery.) Traya is behind Sidious. However, we do not know much about her, and therefore Nihilus may well be ahead of her. However, he is an instinctual thing, driven by hunger to consume as much Force essence as he can. He is currently faced by (arguably) the 2 most powerful mortals to ever live (I do not count Abeloth as mortal, but something else) and frankly, eventually he will want to eat. I do not see that going well.
In order to dominate Nihilus - you would have to destroy his alliegance to his one true Master - Hunger.
Nihilus's Hunger to just eat Palpatine and Luke in the moment would be too great and his Hunger would have him ignore Palpatine's commands - and begin to feast.
- I thought that too, a while back. However, our resident Sidious expert debunked that, and he and other experts explained how Palpatine can't control his Wormholes/Storms at close range.
Plus on the other hand, there's always a chance Nihilus could eat the wormhole, too.
__________________ There are no contests in the Art of Peace. A true warrior is invincible because he or she contests with nothing. Defeat means to defeat the mind of contention that we harbor within.
- Morihei Ueshiba
Registered: May 2010
Location: No clue. Looks.... Blue?
I don't know about that. I mean, this is the guy who spoke to the Jedi High Council, Yoda, Mace Windu, and all of them, and hundreds of other Jedi, and yet not a single one sensed the darkness in his Force presence. I could see him dominating Nihilus, overcoming even the hunger that consumes him.
Plus, Nihilus would get fat. That would be quite humorous.....
Palpatine could break Nihilus's ravenous Hunger, that is so deep and set that it causes him to need to feed on entire Planet-fulls of people and makes up his very being?
So Nihilus has a quick snack in front of him - his Hunger about to be sated in a few seconds, and Palpatine persuades him not to?
By the way, is this before or after Traya has hit Luke and Palpatine with her own Giga-drain?
__________________ There are no contests in the Art of Peace. A true warrior is invincible because he or she contests with nothing. Defeat means to defeat the mind of contention that we harbor within.
- Morihei Ueshiba
May 29th, 2012 01:35 PM
