It can't be because I'm actually finding his posts funny!
__________________ There are no contests in the Art of Peace. A true warrior is invincible because he or she contests with nothing. Defeat means to defeat the mind of contention that we harbor within.
- Morihei Ueshiba
Well, since you did bring some evidence to the table I will entertain your argument.
Proof? Her quote in the Dark Empire audio drama is pretty damning on the subject. It makes it clear she hasn't been helping Luke throughout the fight. Meanwhile, your “evidence” involves a panel with Leia glowing blue. Now normally, that might mean something but unfortunately this comic makes almost every character glow at times.
Are we to believe that Chewbacca, Han, and C3PO are all able to utilize battle meditation? Of course not. Basically the glowing is nothing more than the sub-par art. This is further reinforced by the fact that when we actually do see Leia using BM she is not glowing.
Now even if you wish to debate whether this is artistic license or not I will point out that the audiobook is a newer source than the comic and generally the newer source overwrites the older.
Clever...
While I will not disagree with canon material I will disagree with DP and other debaters if I believe them to be wrong. In fact, claiming I am wrong for disagreeing with them is a logical fallacy known as argumentum ad populum.
Edit: Ah, seems I was beaten to the punch by Zamp.
At least I can say things without a waterfall of drool cascading down my face.
Again, I'll ask your Predecessor, when I see him.
That's still more than Luke's connection was attacked.
Irrelevant.
Luke's ego doesn't come into this - about the Universe; this is about an evil Dark Jedi whose goal is to harness all of the power of the Valley and could kill trillions very quickly.
If Luke knocks him out and keeps him from the Valley - the galaxy can survive.
If Luke can't defeat him, even in a non-lethal way, then Desann has the potential to get the Valley's power - and then it becomes a job for someone who can defeat him.
12 ABY.
Ironically, I had a copy some time ago - a copy I lifted from someone's house while they were moving.
Sadly, that copy was eaten by my dog.
So I've no copy to read, currently.
Hey, are you calling DARTH POWER a liar?
I have, Dumbass. Why don't you?
Jerec had been in the proccess of absorbing all the power of the Valley, when he was cut from it and killed.
Like Jerec, Desasnn still needed a small window of time to capture all the power - and Kyle managed to catch up to him in the nick of time.
Luke is essentially a Gary Stu now, and all his fights before the NJO books were won out of luck.
Before NJO, and even during the first couple books, Luke still sucked.
You should go read some books on proper writing - that way your sentences don't run onto each other.
And yes, you may enjoy Star Wars - it seems like a fresh and very new breathtaking Universe for you - have you watched the movies, yet?
__________________ There are no contests in the Art of Peace. A true warrior is invincible because he or she contests with nothing. Defeat means to defeat the mind of contention that we harbor within.
- Morihei Ueshiba
Post the quote from the radio-drama, and let's see that picture of her using BM later on in the comic.
You could be right.
It's not difficult with some of you guys.
Ut est spucatum tauri.
But in any case, we'll see what DP says when we see him.
__________________ There are no contests in the Art of Peace. A true warrior is invincible because he or she contests with nothing. Defeat means to defeat the mind of contention that we harbor within.
- Morihei Ueshiba
Registered: May 2010
Location: No clue. Looks.... Blue?
*Sigh* I say one thing and get dragged into a "debate" about how powerful Luke is.....
Battlemaster, he had time to infuse at least 50 people with the power of the Valley. He had time in order to claim it all for himself, but he did not. Tell me, what would be the point of the experiments Hethrir was having him do if he could claim the pwoer your saying he could?
And at this point, your just name calling. Seriously, you don't refute a single point without just saying the same thing you have been. I am growing bored of attempting to show you why your wrong, and will therefore throw my hands above my head and yell, "DONE!" out of boredom. Just go read the other peoples post and you will see why you lost.
Why do I get the feeling, when you threw your hands in the air and yelled, "DONE!", it sounded like, "DAWWRWWRRNNN..!"
Down Syndrome's a b*tch, I guess.
But seriously, there's a reason Rahn warned Kyle about the Valley and it's power - play Jedi Knight: Dark Forces II - you'll see what I mean.
Also, gaining the full power of the Valley takes time, and there is a particular location needed to access it.
And Hethrir was also obsessed with making sure a second Imperium would come about, and wasn't all-knowing about the Force, hence his need for research, and he likely didn't understand the scope of the Valley's power as the Jedi Master Qu Rahn, had.
The Valley is dangerous. Accessing it's full power in the way Rahn described leads to a being becoming invincible and having the ability to terminate star systems in a whisper.
Luke's fight with Desann was a sort of point of no-return for him - and he was lucky that Kyle had the skill and ability to defeat Desann and caught up to him before his plans were complete.
(Yavin 4 Academy, After Desann's Defeat)
(A throng of students gathers at the landing-platform. Kyle claps a hand on Luke's shoulder)
Luke: "Kyle, I can't thank you enough for your help. The New Republic owes you a debt of gratitude."
Kyle: "Luke, I was happy to help - and hey, Desann's just lucky he didn't have to fight you at the end, I mean, you could have taken him back at the hangar bay, right?"
Luke: (Awkward silence; dozens of eager young students look at Luke with bright gazes)
"....I....yessssss.."
(Everyone shares a hearty laugh)
End.
__________________ There are no contests in the Art of Peace. A true warrior is invincible because he or she contests with nothing. Defeat means to defeat the mind of contention that we harbor within.
- Morihei Ueshiba
I must have totally missed all that. I know DS can be rough around the edges, but I can't remember the last time he pissed somebody off that badly.
__________________ There are no contests in the Art of Peace. A true warrior is invincible because he or she contests with nothing. Defeat means to defeat the mind of contention that we harbor within.
- Morihei Ueshiba
__________________ There are no contests in the Art of Peace. A true warrior is invincible because he or she contests with nothing. Defeat means to defeat the mind of contention that we harbor within.
- Morihei Ueshiba
Yeah, I watched it again - Luke actually grunted from the sheer pressure of Desann overpowering his TK (or because Luke was too slow to be able to ground the energy) and then Desann simply tossed his saber - done.
Too bad Luke wasn't able to quickly lift the debris off to carry on the fight. My guess is either he couldn't, or wouldn't.
Ah well, good thing Kyle was close by.
He saved the Universe that day.
I like you just fine and I'll be gentle in the future.
- and if you promise to go scamper off and plot on how to come up with better comebacks, I'll conisder it.
__________________ There are no contests in the Art of Peace. A true warrior is invincible because he or she contests with nothing. Defeat means to defeat the mind of contention that we harbor within.
- Morihei Ueshiba
Jun 3rd, 2012 04:19 AM
