Well I'm not really on the PT hate wagon, but do admit TCW expanded on those movies very nicely, filling in necessary gaps in the overall plot and character development.
Oh, now see I thought his story in Republic(particularly his post-Order 666 story) was one of the better stories throughout the comic-based medium. I loved what they did with him.
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I don't hate the PT as a whole. There are parts I like, and parts I despise. I do think, though, that they're seriously beneath the Original Trilogy for the most part.
At the start of the story in Republic, I really liked him. I just felt like he was bit of an author avatar at times, and that stuff can put me off if it's not handled a certain way.
Well its easy to praise other people when we see some good Star Wars and criticise Lucas every time we see some bad Star Wars, but fact is nothing happened on TCW without Lucas's consent and all the big story lines and ideas came directly from him. All the Star Wars we've seen on the big and small screen up until now has all bee courtesy of Mr. Lucas. So don't forget if your still a Star Wars fan it is all down to him. I personally am grateful for his work and will miss it now that its ended.
No one is hating on Lucas. Just saying that in my personal opinion, TCW was much, much better than the PT films in pretty much every area. Filoni was simply able to do more with the SW mythos in the animated universe(and do it easier) than Lucas could have ever hoped to do with the characters/plot in the cinematic universe. That much is a fact.
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I think it needs to be considered that TCW did have a lot more freedom, and a lot more time, to build things that the movies either couldn't, or wouldn't.
It's not about praise or criticism. Lucas did sign off on all of the "big decisions", but the fact remains that there are things from that show that weren't Lucas in the slightest.
Like the character interactions and dialogue which were, for me, one of the very best things about the show. Lucas didn't sit and write all of that dialogue.
Lucas has his positives, and he has his faults. I can be grateful without being a yes man; that's what got us the shitty parts of the prequels, after all.
Yeah except again TCW wasn't Filoni's creation. It was Lucas's. Filoni was simply executing what Lucas wanted and the way Lucas wanted it.
That's true that he didn't write the dialogue. (Although the dialogue still isn't exactly the strongest part of TCW either). But I think you've hit it on the mark that this was a series, and just gave Lucas and Filoni much more room to expand on things and fill in gaps that just couldn't be done in a coouple of films.
^ I thought you said Filoni did something Lucas couldn't have with the SW prequel era? Filoni was just doing what Lucas told him. Or did you mean the animation was doing stuff the films couldn't have?
I said that Filoni was able to do things in the animated universe that Lucas couldn't(or at least failed to) pull off in the cinematic universe... Which is glaringly obvious.
I can break down a few of these differences further, if required.
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Filoni was the supervising director in overall charge of TCW. Lucas may have created the franchise and 'brainstormed' with Filoni here and there, but he was still just the executive producer of the show itself. It's the same reason people give most of the credit for the success of the Indiana Jones franchise to Spielberg, who directed the films, and not Lucas, who created the franchise and executive produced the films.
That being said, I believe Filoni should get the bulk of the credit for TCW. He did a much better overall job depicting the SWU than Lucas ever did in his films--that is to say: pretty much everything about the show was better than the PT films. The glaring difference in generalized appeal between said media can be credited almost exclusively to Filoni, imho.
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