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THE FORCE AWAKENS - discussion with SPOILERS!!!
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Raptor22
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Originally posted by Impediment
Chewbacca deserved to have a moment, yes. Han's death just seemed so casual to me.

The Game of Thrones reference is lost to me. Not a fan at all.
i agree it seemed to get swept under the rug rather quickly. It also made me wonder what landos up to if hes even still alive, and if their gonna have a scene where he hears the bad news.

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Beniboybling
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extremely dumb. almost as dumb as thinking that surrender to the empire was a perfectly acceptable alternative in extreme circumstances. going so far as to suggest that they may be gracious enough to

anyway they certainly could have picked a funnier and more clever way for 3p0 to annoy han.
Tbh the funniest moment in the film for me was when Threepio's face popped up and he was all like "it is I C-3PO!" laughing out loud
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Watching it again tonight hopefully. Can't wait to see the post-crawl opening shot of the Star Destroyer again, probably the best opening shot of any Star Wars film other than the first one.
Yeah that was great.


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NewGuy01
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The opening crawl itself was dissapointing, though. It explained none of the politics that it should have, only the "force" side of things.

In fact, that's part of the story that really, unexpectedly bothered me. Everything was about the Force. Even Poe Dameron was talking about the balance in the first scene. I mean, you could tell this was written by a fanboy, tbh. The treatment of the force is just... Off, not right.


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Bashar Teg
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agreed about the opening crawl.

oh and that one scene where poe takes out like 12 tie fighters in 8 seconds...that was a bit much unless they intend to make him a jedi.


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SpaceMonkey
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Watched it last night. Liked it a lot. Will watch it again tonight. It did seem cheesy at moments but pretty bad ass at others.

Phasma didn't do anything... I felt that was a waste.


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Lord Stark
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Chewbacca deserved to have a moment, yes. Han's death just seemed so casual to me.

The Game of Thrones reference is lost to me. Not a fan at all.



Its a reference to including politics but not boring the audience.


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The acting was possibly on par with the greatest of the OT moments. Boyenga and all of the cast absolutely put their hearts in the film, and outshined the OT cast in every way in the passion they put from their facial expressions to expressing their dialogue.


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The acting was possibly on par with the greatest of the OT moments. Boyenga and all of the cast absolutely put their hearts in the film, and outshined the OT cast in every way in the passion they put from their facial expressions to expressing their dialogue.
Nah, they were excellent but they didn't have as good a dynamic as the OT crowd.


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queeq
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I liked Poe Dameron actually. For the first time we see a pilot know to be very good, and we actually SEE him be very good.

And yeah, Phasma... what an obsolete character was that. You think she is still alive?


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I laughed like a horse when Finn gave BB-8 a thumbs up and BB-8 returned it.


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Lord Stark
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I think the cast is actually amazing. I hope they let Finn plow Rey by the end of it though and Poe doesn't swoop in for the kill steal


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Plow Rey? Wow... how womantic. wink


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I liked Poe Dameron actually. For the first time we see a pilot know to be very good, and we actually SEE him be very good.

And yeah, Phasma... what an obsolete character was that. You think she is still alive?


too good to not be strong with the force imho. that one scene was way over the top enough to where he alone could have changed the whole ending of rotj where all the ties are shot down and lando casually glides the falcon into the death star.


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JediRobin23
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K, Han Solo death hit me went the lightssaber went through him. It was something when ren said "I know what I have to do, but I don't know if I have the strength to do it". Saw his death coming when he said that, but was still shocking to me. Now it seems supreme leader snoke will have to complete Rens training as he needed to kill his father first. He's a puppet just like Vader was, except this time it's snoke running the strings
I'm not totally convinced Han is dead though but probably. Leia didn't seem too upset about his death?

Now Snoke must be a sith. Wasn't much explanation of snoke in episode 7 as it's obviously setting up for episode 8.

The ending, wow, Luke to be the new yoda with Rey.

Oh, what's with the blue lightsaber that belonged to Luke? Luke lost his blue one (originally anakins) in esb when Vader cut Luke's hand off. In episode 6 Luke had a green lightsaber. My guess is that Luke built a new one after episode 6...

I could go on, but that's my initial take.....

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Bashar Teg
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i think luke had planted the saber deliberately so that ren would find it. struck me as way too odd that an object she never saw would trigger force-flashbacks like that. almost like he put the same spell on it that yoda may or may not have done for that cave in ESB.


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Gambler
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Well, it is kind of Star Wars. Say what you want, but it lacked Lucas's touch. Not that he should have made the movie alone (you can't trust him with that anymore), but the man knows how to add things that attract fans.

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Bashar Teg
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he just sucks at taking part in a production without holding sway over everything. i would have preferred him stay on board for collaboration, but nowadays he completely lacks the ability to compromise in the creative process. at least as far as star wars goes.


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queeq
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Oh yeah, we all remember Jar Jar. That attracted a lot of fans.


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NewLanceWindu
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I'm not totally convinced Han is dead though but probably. Leia didn't seem too upset about his death?


Except Leia completely felt the death in the Force...they wouldn't have included her scene if he didn't actually die.


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queeq
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Of course he's dead. If the saber didn't kill him, the fall did. And even if that didn't kill him, the implosion of the planet certainly did. It's over guys, Han had a great run and a good death. Let him rest in peace.


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