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Who are the parents of Rey?
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Bashar Teg
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redpill
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if ep VIII proves me right you read it here first.

Rey seems to have psychometry

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NewLanceWindu
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laughing Looks nothing like the offspring of Quinlan would look.


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Originally posted by Beniboybling
It's pretty simple, the lightsaber that belonged to Luke Skywalker is now calling out to his daughter, because of a family connection.


Just for discussion sake... if Rey turns out NOT to be related to the Skywalkers, how would you explain this?

In other words: apart from the sabre there is no reason at all to suggest a connection. And we've never seen such a sabre connection in the saga... so the argument is thin at least.


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redpill
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laughing Looks nothing like the offspring of Quinlan would look.
quin has dark hair. brown eyes. genetics.

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Bashar Teg
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quin has dark hair. brown eyes. genetics.

then please explain:

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redpill
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Quinlan had a daughter this daughter then had a 1 night stand with Luke who then gave birth to Rey.

hence psychometry

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Galan007
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Quinlan Vos was stated to be Kenobi's age, which means he was born in 57BBY.
Order 666 commenced in 19BBY. -Quin=38y/o
ANH takes place 19 years after RotS. -Quin=57y/o
RotJ is set 4 years after ANH. -Quin=61y/o
Rey was born roughly 11 years after the battle of Endor. -Quin=72y/o

For your theory to work it would mean Quin was ~70 years old when he sired Rey... I suppose it's not entirely out of the question, but it is certainly a long shot. Imo.


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Quinlan Vos was stated to be Kenobi's age, which means he was born in 57BBY.
Order 666 commenced in 19BBY. -Quin=38y/o
ANH takes place 19 years after RotS. -Quin=57y/o
RotJ is set 4 years after ANH. -Quin=61y/o
Rey was born roughly 11 years after the battle of Endor. -Quin=72y/o

For your theory to work it means a 70 year old man would have sired Rey... I suppose it's not entirely out of the question, but it is certainly a long shot. Imo.



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JediRobin23
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K, can someone please explain why luke skywalker would have a kid?

He's a Jedi, who should know the teachings of yoda on attachments being forbidden, leading to the darkside, etc. I heard Luke being married in the eu with Mara jade or whatever. But, even in the past with the eu, that didn't seem right. Should it seem right now, that Luke can have offspring?

If Rey is his daughter, then he would be an exempt case for Jedi....

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Galan007
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Yes, attachment is forbidden per the Jedi Code, but that didn't stop other prominent Jedi(namely Anakin and Quinlan) from falling in love nonetheless. Heck, you could even argue that Kenobi, one of the most incorruptible characters in the mythos, formed a strong/love-esque attachment to Satine... But I digress.

The point is that Luke certainly isn't infallible. He received a few sentences of 'ethics training' from Kenobi and Yoda, but had to piece everything else together himself. If he fell in love with a woman and sired a child(ie. Rey) I don't see how he'd be any less of a respectable Jedi..? Heck, maybe Kylo slaughtered Luke's lover/wife, which, coupled with the destruction of his New Jedi Order, is what really put him on a sharp downward spiral into self-imposed exile..?



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Luke and some woman


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Just like Snoke isn't PLageuis, Rey is very doubtful to be Luke's daughter. Simply from the makers' point of view: they want as little PT dodginess as possible. So they avoid all the PT weirdness, which kinda started in ROTJ with the Luke-Leia connection.

I know Kasdan was not into the sibling thing all of a sudden, because that was never the plan. So I seriously doubt they'll bring in another comvenient family relation into this.

Despite everything you think you see in TFA, there's also what the makers are trying to do. And a big part is to avoid everything that smells of the PT.


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Bashar Teg
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we dont know that kasdan didnt like the idea. he wrote under the assumption that there would be 2 trilogies dealing with that particular story arc instead of 1.


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Originally posted by queeq
Just for discussion sake... if Rey turns out NOT to be related to the Skywalkers, how would you explain this?

In other words: apart from the sabre there is no reason at all to suggest a connection. And we've never seen such a sabre connection in the saga... so the argument is thin at least.
There are tonne of connections between Luke & Rey beyond the saber brah, and we've never seen saber connections in the saga full stop. It's new territory, and I'm speculating on possible mechanics. Clearly some kind of connection exists however.

As for your question, "cause space magic" is the best I can come up with. And I guess I wouldn't be surprised if they went down that route.

EDIT: One thing however that doesn't make sense full stop is, if Rey had visions when she touched the lightsaber, why didn't Luke?


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I think the universe has enough scope to warrant Rey not being Luke's daughter, it would just reek of GL too much. BB-8 was made using spare bits of C-3PO after he was dismantled on Bespin in ESB though! Promise ya!!!


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Originally posted by Bashar Teg
we dont know that kasdan didnt like the idea.


We do. Just read The Making of Return of the Jedi...

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Originally posted by Beniboybling
There are tonne of connections between Luke & Rey beyond the saber brah, and we've never seen saber connections in the saga full stop. It's new territory, and I'm speculating on possible mechanics. Clearly some kind of connection exists however.

As for your question, "cause space magic" is the best I can come up with. And I guess I wouldn't be surprised if they went down that route.

EDIT: One thing however that doesn't make sense full stop is, if Rey had visions when she touched the lightsaber, why didn't Luke?



Well, what are the connections that have no other explanations? There only IS the sabre. And indeed: we have no precedence of a Force connection through the sabre (and don't mention EU here). To me, that's the only one.

Here are two other points why we should not conclude so hastily that Rey is a Skywalker.

1. We know from the PT there are many Force sensitive people in the universe. Including very powerful ones: Mace, Yoda, OB1, Anakin... So to be Force sensitive you don't HAVE to be a Skywalker.

2. Rey's force sensitivity isn't explained by possibly being a Skywalker. Leia is that attuned, neither is Ren.

At this point there is NO hard evidence to claim that Rey is a Skywalker. There is canon precedence that people can be Force sensitive without being a Skywalker and can be guided by the Force. The only thing I see now is that Rey is Force sensitive and for some reason the Force is using Luke's old sabre to bring her to him to be trained. Just like the Force guided QGJ through a blockade to Tatooine and Anakin.


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Galan007
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While I am currently of the opinion that Rey is Luke's daughter, I would also not be surprised if the next film throws a twist in the mix, and gives Rey some sort of left-field origin. /shrug


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Beniboybling
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Oh sure other indications leave room for other possibilities, but its a culmative argument. Anyway concerning the lightsaber connection, we do have a precedent, see the quote from the Star Wars databank (Canon) and the Younglings arc from TCW (Canon) - its conceptual but still established within the new Canon.

Granted TFA could establish a new precedent of the Force working through objects (rather than just events) but I can't help but find it overly contrived. It makes the Force too much of a Mcguffin and risks overdoing the Chosen One shtick.

Anyway at the very least I think she must be one of (or related to) one of Luke's old students, if not Luke himself given other clues.


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K, can someone please explain why luke skywalker would have a kid?

He's a Jedi, who should know the teachings of yoda on attachments being forbidden, leading to the darkside, etc.



Well Luke's the GM of his own Jedi Order now (before Kylo Ren destroyed it), so he can change the code as appropriate. After all the old Order was flawed, which lead to it's downfall.

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