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How Was Anakin Able to Come Back as a Ghost?
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Bashar Teg
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what does that have to do with film canon


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Exactly.


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Well considering Canon doesn't give us any information on those thousands of years before the movies, it makes sense to refer to Legends when speculating.

Either way we can't claim that no Jedi became Force ghosts before Qui-Gon.


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it makes sense to refer to Legends when speculating.


no it just doesnt.


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smile


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How about it's a mystery? Oh right that's only allowed for the OT. But when the PT leaves questions, it's clearly a plot hole.

Anyway Anakn was basically fathered by the Force. I'm sure that has something to do with how easily he became a Force Ghost. Perhaps with a little pull from Ben and Yoda's ghosts.

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Originally posted by Beniboybling
Welp, I don't believe you should really need special training to become a Force ghost


If it was something known to be "normal" ( for lack of a better word ) among Jedi, then Vader as former Jedi should have known about it. As Ushgarak said: "the OT makes it very clear that he has no idea what it is that Ben has done."

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That's Lucas for you: he needs to do a lot of off screen explaining to make things work they way he changed his mind.


But did he change his mind? Going by the Annotated Screenplays, it appears that he already had the idea of Yoda assisting Anakin to become a Force ghost in the OT era.


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Yes, the idea... He had many ideas when making the OT. Like the fact that at the time of making ROTJ he was insistent that people like Yoda and Palpy weren't the kind of Force users that didn't need or use lightsabers... They were so powerful, they were far above the use of weapons or something. And look, there's the PT...

Ideas while making a movie are completely irrelevant. People change their minds while making a movie. But when it's not IN the movie, it's not there. We don't see Yoda assisting Anakin, so how Anakin manages no one knows...

It used to be some mystical conclusion to the OT. But with the QGJ thing in ROTS, it all became complicated.

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How about it's a mystery? Oh right that's only allowed for the OT. But when the PT leaves questions, it's clearly a plot hole.


No, it's a question. It's unexplained. Not is there a hint to an explanation. The PT tries to explain more things and does it often only half. So if you explain something, make sure it works.


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Well no. Because it leaves a lot of mystery around Anakin's very conception and existence. The PT didn't even explain the Ghost thing. Just expanded on the fact that it wasn't something any Jedi could do. Anakin doing it without training (when it was clearly a mystery to Vader) is just another part of the Anakin mystery.

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Because he's the Chosen One and he just brought balance to the force.


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Well no. Because it leaves a lot of mystery around Anakin's very conception and existence. The PT didn't even explain the Ghost thing. Just expanded on the fact that it wasn't something any Jedi could do. Anakin doing it without training (when it was clearly a mystery to Vader) is just another part of the Anakin mystery.


Well, it took a DEAD Jedi to learn that. And several years as well. So it's not just something any Jedi can do. In fact, Yoda tells OB1 that he will teach him how he can find a way to do it too. So it's clearly some mystery, some action one can take to achieve that status. What that is and why then Anakin suddenly can become a ghost after slaughtering people for twenty years straight is quite the mystery that does require some kind of explanation..


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How was Anakin able to come back as a ghost?

He used the Konami code.


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Ah... problem solved. Up up, down down, left right left right, B, A.

Boom instant ghost. It works! Now how do I get back to normal?


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Because he's the Chosen One and he just brought balance to the force.


I'm just going to go with this cop-out


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Hehehe... sounds like wisdom.


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