I disagree about him terribly written. I think he's fine. He's an emo, yes, but I think he's a baddie fitting to our time. Emo's what we have a lot of these days, why not turn one into a baddie?
And yes, Kylo taking out Snoke would be the copy cat method. Again: I hope they do take SW into a fresh new direction. I don't mind the repetitions in TFA, as I consider it a soft reboot. But now they have to move on... they really do.
So, I hope they will surprise us in where these characters will go. At least they didn't kill off Kylo in the first episode.
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Personally, I'd prefer it if Ren gets redeemed and suffers through the consequences of his actions, just to mix it up a bit.
The idea of Anakin turning to the darkside because of some mistaken idea of saving the one he loves while ben turns to the lightside to save someone he lpves appeals to me. He's the first character in Star Wars movies who'd killed a relative. I'm kinda interested to see where it would go, and hopefully not just a copy paste of the last two trilogies.
He could be on the run and save those rightful avengers from falling to the dark side he only knows too well. As I said, if he was to live, he'd make up for his crimes not live a peaceful life nor staying in prison/getting executed (which is pretty much what happened).
Think Angel from the Buffyverse, that guy was a cruel mass murderer in his time.
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Angel never chose evil; he was possessed by a force which then made him do evil things. Anakin actively chose to embrace dark forces.
You can't 'make up' for crimes of that scale. It would be exceptionally wrong for him not to face justice. The only morally acceptable outcome would be appropriate punishment, which if redeemed he would submit himself to.
Dramatically, dying is much better. That's why redemption = death; the character's story arc is dead anyway at that point.
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Boring. We're probably gonna get that from Snoke, we don't another main character being evil through and through. Self-doubt, temptation, confusion, resistance, and te possibility for change make for interesting narratives and dynamics. Static characterization is ungodly dull.
No, Anakin was a terribly written character. Kylo is a very average character. Simple direction and straight forward. Was good, went bad, fights doubts, motivation to be revealed next film. They can't blow every wad this early in the new franchise.
So does Harry Osbourne. And Snape.
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Angel does remember the pleasure he felt by inflicting pains to others, and if he truly considered himself acquited from his actions he wouldn't be pursuing redemption. Any quest for salvation assumes there is a big fault, the biggest the fault the deepest the need for expunging one's sin.
Vader's demise was "easy" in comparison.
The saga disagrees since he was redeemed and came back as a force ghost. There wasn't any "appropiate" punishment and death was just a short punishment compared with the continued task of "making amends".
Punishment isn't always justice. If offing Anakin will end up in the galaxy being torn into war, then Anakin is responsible for the potential danger he inflicts to civilization by "giving himself" in. In that case, facing "justice" is blalantly ignoring his responsabilities and is immoral.
The outcome it's ok, I'm not dissing the saga for what happened, I'm pointing out that there were other possibilities that make for engaging storytelling. It's not as if ancient mythology didn't have many stories about Fallen heros that went on living after commiting atrocities.